Best sports books according to redditors

We found 504 Reddit comments discussing the best sports books. We ranked the 192 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.

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u/slogankid1 · 879 pointsr/soccer

The team so bad, they released a book about how they came second that one time


Edit: As a few people mentioned, there are others with fantastic reviews:

>"Football? Bloody hell!", as Bill Shankly once said.
By the final chapter of this book I was kneeling on the floor of my living room, floods of tears pattering onto my replica kit, wailing like a hysterical gibbon. My dogs, Rushie and Aldo, wailed in solidarity with me. They understood; my wife didn't. I felled her with a right hook.
Imagine if all you ever wanted was a carrot cake, and then, after 25 years without one, you see your most loyal friend walking towards your house smiling, carrying a carrot cake with your name on it. As he reaches your drive, he tumbles calamitously into a ditch. You rush out to find him writhing in agony amongst a cakey-muddy mess, a hungry raven pecking at his flesh. That is how we Liverpool fans feel about the 13/14 season (the raven is Tony Pulis, by the way).
This book is not just some cynical cash-in to make money out of Irish people. Paul Tomkins has truly encapsulated the modern-day Liverpool Football Club experience in literary form: the misty-eyed sentimentality, the endless self-mythologizing and, above all, the abject, humiliating failure. YNWA.

u/practically_floored · 180 pointsr/soccer

This book.
>Liverpool's 2013/14 campaign was no ordinary football season. It was the season when everything changed. A year of hope, fantasy, adventure; where joyous reclamation met crushing disappointment and won. A time when the brand of heroic and daring football - and footballers that seemed consigned to the sepia toned era of the game s past returned.

Also the fact they were selling this t shirt in town towards the end of the season

u/4a2e4474d21 · 167 pointsr/Wellthatsucks

There is a book about stuff like this. Andy Roddick Beat Me With a Frying Pan --

u/notaresponsibleadult · 90 pointsr/climbing

Lead climbing should be scary when you start out. The fear is just your lizard brain trying to keep you from killing yourself. Your lizard brain doesn't understand that the equipment will keep you safe, it just sees a rope going from your waist down instead of up, and it freaks out. Your lizard brain is just trying to look out for you, but your rational brain knows better. You have to train your lizard brain to shut up. Doing that takes work. The only way to make lead climbing not scary is to train in falling.

There are safe falls, and there are dangerous falls. You can't trust yourself in the moment to figure out which is which, so it's always a good idea to figure out where any dangerous falls are before you get on a route. As soon as you start climbing, you're going to decide that every fall is a dangerous fall, so make up your mind on the ground. Try to see positions that you'd clip from, and what would happen if you were to fall while clipping - the worst case scenario. From the ground you can imagine the fall and rope stretch, and it won't look that bad. Once you're on the wall, it'll probably seem like a guaranteed ground fall, because your lizard brain is losing it's marbles. Anyway, in a gym, all falls after the first bolt or two are almost always safe (assuming you have a good belayer!). Even so I find it useful to image the different falls I could take.

The point of that last bit is to separate rational fear from irrational fear. I'm only going to focus on training away irrational fear, where you're scared but you wouldn't actually get hurt by a fall. You're at the gym, you've looked at a climb and decided it would actually be safe to fall anywhere. Now it's time to get on and fall.

If you're anything like I was when I first started lead climbing, you'll probably make a clip, then pause since you now feel "safe". There's the idea that each bolt is an island of safety in dangerous waters. I'm going to keep assuming that you think like I did when I was starting out because it seems common based on talking to friends learning to lead. Could be wrong though.

At this point you're going to ask yourself "do I have enough strength to reach the next bolt?" This is a bad mental state. You should be focusing on the next few moves, not where the bolts are. If you're unsure, you'll want to ask your belayer to take. Don't do it! Either keep climbing, or if you're feeling too scared, just let go. It'll pretty much be a top rope fall at this point. Asking the belayer to take is forbidden when you're training in falling. Your only options are to climb or let go.

Once you realize that small top rope falls are no big deal, start making a few moves above the bolt. You may also freeze up here. You'll wonder if you can make the next bolt, and want to downclimb to the previous one. Don't do it! When you downclimb, you're training yourself that falling a few moves above the bolt is somehow dangerous. Downclimbing is a very common, but very bad habit. Instead, just pause. Hold on a bit. If you can hold on, you're proving that you're not that tired, and you probably could have made more moves. Then let go and take a small fall.

Once you get used to doing that, try pausing again. This time, instead of just letting go, throw for the next hold, but don't try to catch it. The goal is to fall while moving from hold to hold, rather than just letting go.

Not so bad is it? So the next thing is try for the next hold, and this time try to actually catch it. If you do, repeat that and try to get the next hold. Continue until you fall (clipping bolts along the way, obviously). Falling while trying really hard to climb means that you're no longer being blocked by fear. Congrats! You're focusing on the individual moves, rather than the bolts and the falls. Now you should be able to lead close to your top roping grade.

Now those rules are simple, but that doesn't mean they're easy. There is fear at each step that takes practice to overcome. The point is to avoid making habits that will hurt your lead climbing. Even when you nail things one day, the fear can come back the next. Training your lead head is like training a muscle. It needs to be regularly exercised. Given time and consistent practice, it'll get strong though.

One other thing I want to mention is that you should really avoid top roping once you start leading. By top roping you're training yourself that leading is somehow more dangerous. A common pattern I see is where people want to top rope a hard climb before leading it. If the falls are safe, what's the point? You're just reinforcing that lead climbing is scary. If you treat lead climbing like something to work your way up to, it'll stay scary. The point is to make it routine.

When I first started lead climbing, my friend lent me this book, which really helped It seemed a bit cheesy at first, but it contains a lot of wisdom.

Good luck!

u/zzz42 · 85 pointsr/politics

People love to hate on the MLS, and it's funny a lot of the time, but it has actually come a long way. Give it a chance people!

This book really changed my opinion on the entire sport, as an American who is flooded with football, basketball, and baseball. It's a wonderful read. You'll thank me later. :)

u/BloodyMess111 · 47 pointsr/reddevils
u/Adrian5156 · 34 pointsr/soccer

The key book for football hooliganism is Among the Thugs by Bill Buford. A fantastic read that gives a great insight into 1980s British hooligan culture. A great look into what started off as a bunch of young lads just wanting to fight that spiraled into violence and death.

The Ball is Round by David Goldblatt. This book is football's history bible. But chapters 13, 14 and 15 focus particularly on FIFA corruption, South American dictatorships and the outbreak of a worldwide hooligan culture, all of which are intertwined.

The book Football Hooliganism is also on my list of readings.

Fever Pitch by Nick Hornby, while not a particularly brilliant insight into hooliganism is a great look into the relationship between fan and club.

And there are some great documentaries on it too:

Football's Fight Club. Charts the rise and fall of hooliganism in 70s and 80s Britain.

There are loads of great documentaries on youtube to be honest that chronicle the problem of hooliganism both in the present day and the past. Here's one I thought was good

I don't know anything too specifically related to Leeds, but Among the Thugs does spend some time with leeds' firm.

I also just watched Vice's program on the Celtic-Rangers rivalry just last night. A good watch.

u/human1st · 21 pointsr/soccer

Umm no. Soccer isn't on major sports networks because the American public never had the chance to consistently establish roots in their local teams due to many failed and poorly run leagues dating back to the early 1900's. Read Soccer in a Football World if you're American it'll enlighten you on the history of the sport in our country.

u/TheBored23 · 21 pointsr/MLS

> A third group, headed by Chicago marketing executive Jim Paglia, envisioned a league tied to a series of new stadiums constructed adjacent to new shopping malls.

There's a lot more about this group in Beau Dure's Long-Range Goals. Paglia had some pretty radical ideas about changing the rules of soccer, with color-coded uniforms based on positions, larger goals, more points for goals from further away...

u/kejadlen · 19 pointsr/sports

In Andy Roddick Beat Me with a Frying Pan, Gallagher says that the USWNT soccer team will often scrimmage against boys teams. Apparently the USWNT can beat the U13 boys, but not the U15 ones. (Or something like that...) Puberty much?

Edit: fixed the link.

u/mkdz · 18 pointsr/InsightfulQuestions

I think they should be allowed to, but they wouldn't be competitive enough to participate in the top professional leagues. In the book Andy Roddick Beat Me with a Frying Pan, the author dedicates a chapter to the gap between men and women in sports.

He concludes that the top women in the world compete at about the level of 15-year-old boys. For example, the world records in track and field for women are right around the records of 15-16 year-old boys. Also, the US Women's National soccer team regularly scrimmages 14-16 year-old men's club soccer teams. They can beat the 14-year-old squads pretty easily but once they play against the 15-year-old teams, they start having trouble. They start getting beat regularly playing against the 16-year-old teams. It's the same in basketball.

Even in non-physical sports, the top women aren't really close to the top men. The author interviewed the top women's pool player in the world, Jeanette Lee, and she said that if she played in the men's tour, she would be ranked around 200.

u/Fritzed · 17 pointsr/MLS

There are a multitude of factors here, but a very big one is just the ownership group approaching everything in the correct way. The sounders pulled huge numbers even back in the 70s, but had largely fallen off the radar for most people just due to a lack of any kind of marketing at all. You would have never known a USL sounders game was happening unless you went out of your way to scour the USL site or called the box office.

There is a fantastic book that covers some of the outreach steps that the ownership group took to engage the community and simply make sure that people knew about the Sounders again.

Beyond the ownership group, here are a few of the factors:

  • History of high-attendance in the last top league (70's NAS)
  • Less competition with European leagues on the west coast due to time zones. (Even amazing games at 7am are still games at 7am)
  • Centrally located and accessible stadium
  • Loss of the Sonics freed up entertainment dollars for some
  • 8 years of shitty baseball from the Mariners had freed up entertainment dollars for some
  • Generational timing. Kids that grew up watching NASL sounders were at the right age to have families of their own to bring to MLS sounders
  • Early success. The quick successes of the team both in league play and USOC cause the crowd to build and solidify rather than lose interest

    Any new team entering the league just has to recreate these things and, with a little luck, they'll have the same type of success. :P
u/rnoboa · 16 pointsr/MLS

He also wrote the only history of MLS to date. People should read it.

u/UltimoLJ · 15 pointsr/PremierLeague

History of football tactics. Basically the essential start if you want to get deep on it, and learn about it.

u/jacobmiller · 14 pointsr/soccer

Since we're recommending books, everyone should read "Inverting the Pyramid: The History of Football Tactics" by Jonathan Wilson. Reading this book inspired me to create /r/footballtactics.

u/squishy_boots · 13 pointsr/climbing

Rather than claiming to know the answers to your personal problems, I'll point you to two resources that have helped me greatly:

  • The Rock Warriors Way: This book deems it self as "Mental training for climbers", but it is so much more than that. As you mention, "climbing forces these sorts of lessons upon us all" and this book acknowledges that, walking you through the borderline spiritual journey of the author and providing great lessons for the reader
  • 9 out of 10 climbers make the same mistakes: This is a training book that avoids quantitive goals (like, 3 sets of X followed by a 4 minute break) and talks instead of a number of the physical/technique/psychological problems we all commonly face in improving as climbers. It opened my mind to new approaches to escaping self-carved ruts in my training.

    Hope these help.
u/Bradleys_Bald_Spot · 13 pointsr/ussoccer

Seconded for sure. Watch some soccer and, if you like books, go read up on the game. There’s a fairly short but really high-quality list of books that you can hit to get a varied taste of soccer, from history to tactics to biographies to silly books about English soccer clichés.

But there is no substitute for watching the game, and even playing around in your back yard a bit. Enjoy!

(Edit: there are other books on the shortlist out there too. Also, there are plenty of fun and informative podcasts related to the sport if you’re into that sort of thing)

u/battles · 12 pointsr/soccer
  1. Inverting the Pyramid - History of Soccer tactics

  2. The Ball is round - History of Soccer

  3. Only A Game? - Best book written by a footballer
u/remembertosmilebot · 11 pointsr/chelseafc

Did you know Amazon will donate a portion of every purchase if you shop by going to instead? Over $50,000,000 has been raised for charity - all you need to do is change the URL!

Here are your smile-ified links:


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u/Grunge_bob · 10 pointsr/tennis

I have a book, written by my sister's friend and the guy who played Andy, called, "Andy Roddick beat me with a Frying Pan."

It's hilarious. I highly recommend it.

u/TundraWolf_ · 10 pointsr/climbing

I'd highly recommend this:

It talks at length about rational fear vs irrational fear.

You shouldn't be thinking about falling in a way that keeps you from climbing hard. You should worry about it enough to know that your leg isn't behind the rope, etc.

Trust the system, trust your belayer. Read the book.

u/ToughJuice17 · 10 pointsr/soccer

The Ball is Round by David Goldblatt

u/RPMadMSU · 9 pointsr/CFB

There are many fans that don't realize that the Michigan - Notre Dame game is not as frequently played as the media would have you believe. While the MSU - Notre Dame rivalry is much more frequent. Plus we have a traditional trophy!

I'm sure someone will post a rivalry bot...

ND and Michigan have officially only played 36 times. The first 3 were in 1899, 1900 and 1902...and then, for many reasons that I don't really want to go into, they stopped playing. (There are records that predate 1899 for games but back then Michigan was "taking it on themselves" to teach other schools how to play football and would travel to campuses and "play" games...though they weren't really games, more like scrimmages, or glorified practices. Michigan kept score, but the other team didn't and most believe that there was some "fudging" of the rules back then by the Michigan club members as there were no standardized rules for football. Michigan won all 3 when ND was still trying to establish their program. They did not play again until WWII, where they split a home and home series in 42 and 43. After that, the series was not revived until 1978, and they played every year between 1978 and 1982. 1985 and 1994, 1997 and 1999, 2002 and 2014. So the series has been sporadic.

The series itself is 16-19-1 with Michigan winning 19 games, to ND's 16 and a single tie. But since after 1936 when the modern game of college football we know and love (I use 1936 because that was the first year the AP attempted to crown a national champion, and cover college football on a national scale) the series is even 16-16-1

Meanwhile, ND and MSU have played 64 times, which makes MSU the 5th most frequent opponent for ND behind Navy (90 games), USC (88 games), Purdue (83 games), and Pitt (67 games). Those are the only 5 opponents that ND has played 60+ games against in their 117 football seasons.

ND's record against MSU is 35-28-1, with the 1 being one of the most famous games in College Football lore (which many believe ushered in the modern era of college football because the TV demand for the 1966 game was so high, it proved that CFB on TV could be a viable money maker for TV networks and schools - CFB started exploding in the media in the wake of that game.)

The 28 wins for MSU over Notre Dame represent the second most wins over ND for any program. Only USC (37) has more.

MSU and ND's first game was in 1918 when the school that would be come MSU was still establishing itself. ND won, and then the series stopped until 1948, after WWII. The rivalry was born because MSC president John Hannah could not find opponents to help legitimatize and grown MSC's athletics program to make a bid for the B1G. MSU's football program at the time was exploding, and many of the Midwestern powers at the time did not want to schedule independent MSC because they'd probably lose. So Hannah contacted ND president Fr. John Cavanaugh and asked him. ND was, themselves, in a pretty good position to take on a top team near by and Cavanaugh realized the potential of a series. So, Cavanaugh not only said yes, but also agreed to a five year series, in which MSU would get 3 home games.

Thus the series was born, and most MSU fans who know the story are forever grateful for ND's help back then...which is part of the reason why the rivalry is different/fun for a lot. We really are pretty close together, our football programs have had a long run of intertwined history, and there is a mutual respect. We have a lot of alum in Chicago living among the ND alum, and subway alum as well. Most more experienced ND fans, and the ND alum in my family generally agree that the MSU-ND series is a more special experience for them, despite the fact that the media, national especially, pimps the M - ND series because of the flash of it all.

Many believe Michigan was leading a black ball...there's a lot of that in the history of MSU/Michigan both in athletics and beyond. There's a lot of negative history between Michigan and ND too. If you want to know the reason why so much hate exists read the book: "Arrogance and Scheming in the Big Ten: Michigan State's Quest for Membership and Michigan's Powerful Opposition"

It's a tough read, the writer is read like a medical textbook (I'm a Health Sciences Librarian, I read medical scholarship most of my me on this one!) However, the research that went into it is solid, and it's exploration of why MSU fans/alum are the way they are toward Michigan in general. We're working to get over it off the field as many of the University of Michigan institutional policies that were working toward the marginalization of other state higher education institutions were eliminated by former Michigan President James Duderstadt in the 1990's, but there is a 125+ year history of belittlement beyond athletics for us and them to get over! A history that many fans, and media members don't really understand.

u/DialSquareUS · 9 pointsr/MLS

Not a site, but this book covers some of the history:

Soccer in a Football World: The Story of America's Forgotten Game
by David Wangerin

u/spisska · 9 pointsr/MLS

The history is a lot deeper than you think. These two books are more or less companions by the same author, and the definitive history of the game in the US and Canada:

u/5510 · 8 pointsr/AdviceAnimals

Even most people who really hate women's sports still underestimate just how wide the gulf in athletic quality is between men and women. I was a good male soccer player in high school, I played for a fairly high level (but not super high level) travel soccer team. I still play decently competitive adult soccer.

I got have gotten SO much shit from people online before for saying that I could play for the women's national team without embarrassing myself (like if i were disguised as a woman, and played for a half, I might not dominate, but nobody would be like "holy shit, how is that girl on the team? She sucks!"). People think I'm trying to brag about myself, the same way they would react to somebody online being like "yeah i was pretty good in high school, I could have made the pros but I hurt my knee."

What they don't understand is that I'm not saying I'm amazing, just that it's not actually a stretch for a decent male player to be able to play for the national team without embarrassing themselves. The USA women's ice hockey team, one of the two best in the worst, scrimmages boys high school teams (playing with girls rules, so no bodychecking), and often loses. The US women's soccer team struggles against high level U-16 boys travel teams, and often gets dominated by high level U-17 boys travel teams.

There is a really great section about this in the book "Andy Roddick Beat me with a Frying Pan" (

u/jimmifli · 8 pointsr/MMA

The book Andy Roddick Beat With a Frying Pan has a chapter called "How big is the gap between male and female athletes?"

IT's much larger than anyone thinks. Here's the author's answer in an interview:

> GM: Why do you think there's this misconception that women are almost at men's level when it comes to sports? And why do you think there's the disparity you've found? Is it possible this isn't a physiological inevitability, but instead a reflection of the disparate financial and other incentives sporting men and women face?

> TG: The misconception is almost entirely attributable to members of the press wanting to show social concern and not doing even the slightest bit of research. Oh, and that people are nuts in this country and don't allow for open dialogues of conversation about certain topics. Just ask Lawrence Summers how venturing into this territory turned out for him, and you can pretty quickly understand why the press is hesitant to touch the subject in a real way.
In my own life, a good friend of mine said I was being misogynistic when I said to him that the top female athletes are on par with 15-year-old boys. He's really into a lot of women's issues, and it was a very visceral reaction. Eventually he calmed down and ended up thinking the chapter was well-done, but still added: "Why even do a chapter like that?" So it's easy to imagine what kind of a reaction I'd get from people more invested in women's rights. Thankfully, my publisher has shielded me from any kind of negative reaction by making sure no one hears about the book. Personally, I think the whole thing is ridiculous because sports are so incredibly inane. Of all the things to worry about the implications of us being equal in…
It's possible that the reasons for the disparity aren't physiological, but I seriously doubt it. Maybe the balance in sports like darts would be closer if it weren't for some of the other factors, but given how consistently the women's best times in any size, speed, and strength events come in the range of 14- to 15-year-old boys, it's hard to fathom that it could be anything but puberty that causes the major separation. That consistency of range, and listening to the US women's soccer team and other female athletes talk about how boys of that age just get too big and fast to compete with, is pretty convincing to me.

I agree with his conclusion, a 14 to 15 year old boy at the same weight would be a fair fight physically. Once boys start puberty the advantage grows so large. I'd guess it's probably 40-50 lbs before the strength gets comparable, but maybe not even then.

u/krovek42 · 8 pointsr/climbing

read The Rock Warrior's Way. It's really important to work on your internal dialogue that runs in your head while you climb. Instead of think things like "don't fall," you need to be thinking only of your next move. The thing that has helped me a lot is warming up a lot on easier leads and focusing on doing every move really efficiently. This has helped me plan and execute moves on harder climbs without wasting movement and energy.

with that being said, getting over the fear of falling also requires that you do it. Keep at it and keep going!

u/njndirish · 8 pointsr/soccer

Soccer in a Football World: The Story of America's Forgotten Game

Recommended reading, many people forget that we've had the sport here for over a century.

u/jtcmiami · 8 pointsr/soccer

The Ball is Round is a good read, especially if you're into the history of the game.

u/mefuzzy · 7 pointsr/soccer
  • For strategy, you can do no wrong than Zonal Marking

  • The Guardian also host some excellent pundits and writers, for example Football Week, a podcast that recaps the weekly ongoings around Europe mainly mixed with some interesting facts, bad puns and excellent insights by the guests. They also host my favourite football writer, Jonathan Wilson who also wrote the very excellent book, Inverting the Pyramid that discusses the evolution of tactics across time.
  • RSSSF is where you can find tons of statistics from leagues around the world, some even goes as far back as the 20's / 30's.

  • Also sought out books by the likes of Brian Glanville or David Winner, who wrote two excellent theses on both English football (Those Feet) and Dutch football (Brilliant Orange) on how a nation's cultural identity influences the football they play.
  • A redditor posted a YouTube link where the user was showing tons of old, full and uncut football games here containing classics like the Germany vs Holland WC Final '74. You can find it here.
u/rbnc · 7 pointsr/soccer

You say 'Citation needed' yet didn't even bother to look on the website where that where that phrase originates?

Football wikipedia article

> The modern rules of association football are based on the mid-19th century efforts to standardise the widely varying forms of football played at the public schools of England. The history of football in England dates back to at least the eighth century.[17]

>The Cambridge Rules, first drawn up at Cambridge University in 1848, were particularly influential in the development of subsequent codes, including association football. The Cambridge Rules were written at Trinity College, Cambridge, at a meeting attended by representatives from Eton, Harrow, Rugby, Winchester and Shrewsbury schools. They were not universally adopted. During the 1850s, many clubs unconnected to schools or universities were formed throughout the English-speaking world, to play various forms of football. Some came up with their own distinct codes of rules, most notably the Sheffield Football Club, formed by former public school pupils in 1857,[18] which led to formation of a Sheffield FA in 1867. In 1862, John Charles Thring of Uppingham School also devised an influential set of rules.

Citation 2. Very good book read it.

u/DasSnaus · 7 pointsr/chelseafc

> decided to change that and after doing some research, settled on Chelsea and now I have some questions about the blues

Hmm, must have been a terribly difficult decision...

Most people have covered the basics but there's a great and colourful history that goes beyond the last decade that people keep talking about, and for that reason you won't find a better resource than this:

I'll leave you with the following advice: one cannot pick his club. You may want to follow Chelsea now and think it's for you, but it's not for everyone and forcing support for a club doesn't work.

I suggest you continue to watch football and find out what more you like about it, and whenever that moment happens that makes a club yours, you will know it - and that could be any club, including us, and I hope you find that, no matter what club you end up on.

u/polarsasquatch · 7 pointsr/chelseafc

I read this earlier this year. It gets a bit in the weeds at times, but a good read to learn more of the history of the club.

u/AdmiralPellaeon · 7 pointsr/chelseafc

I can recommend Chelsea FC: The definitive story of the first 100 years by Rick Glanville, it is an excellent read

u/keystone_union · 7 pointsr/MLS

The American Soccer History Archive has a lot of material:

There is a historical overview of American soccer there that might be what you are looking for. There are also year-by-year reports, USMNT World Cup reviews, regional histories, historical player bios, etc. Great site overall.

Roger Allaway is an American soccer historian who regularly writes short but interesting history articles on his blog at bigsoccer:

Philly Soccer Page has a lot of good articles on US soccer history, including a series on the USMNT in the World Cup:

"Soccer in a Football World: The Story of America's Forgotten Game" by David Wangerin is a very good book if you're willing to spend some cash (though Google Books probably has a preview):

u/MrMallow · 7 pointsr/ColoradoOffroad

BLM feild Ranger checking in!!

I work out of the BLM office in Kremmling, we frequently go down to Moab to help out their office during busy times.

You can camp anywhere, explore and shoot anywhere on BLM land, It is public use land and unless its posted otherwise you're good.

this is true nationally, we are federal, BLM laws do not vary much by state.

But, be aware, it is not in anyway ok to go everywhere with your vehicle, this gets abused in Moab (we don't have enough people to patrol), stay on the existing trails and don't contribute to homemade trails.

Some links for you;

EDIT: also, buy this book you wont regret it =)

u/roguery · 6 pointsr/soccer

Two ones I liked:
How Soccer Explains The World: An Unlikely Theory of Globalization A few short essays of how football is a useful lens for understanding some contemporary issues. It's light social science, with more emphasis on football than merely using it as a loose metaphor to start from.

A season With Verona
I am not really a fan of Italy or Serie A, and only sometimes like travel literature. This one was pretty good though. The writer is a long time Hellas Verona supporter and foreign correspondent in Italy. As a sort of travel book/football journalist he endeavours to not only see every home fixture, but also to travel across Italy for each away fixture and cup tie. This one is again fairly football heavy, rather than just using football as a mere way into another topic.

u/ampereJR · 6 pointsr/Portland
u/Akbar42 · 6 pointsr/CFB

This book describes the Big Ten admission issue at length.

u/mourinho1234 · 6 pointsr/chelseafc

Don't go on /r/soccer. Chelsea fans are not welcome there, North American Chelsea fans even less so.

That being said, when I became a fan I read Chelsea FC The Official Biography which really helped with the history.

Also, weaintgotnohistory is a great site for transfer rumours and match discussions, and the Daily Hilario is always great.

u/MastadonInfantry · 6 pointsr/bouldering

Good job. Check out this book if you want to work on your mental game

u/MrManBeard · 6 pointsr/WildernessBackpacking

For a complete beginner I usually recommend you pick up a book. There's so much information that it's hard to get anything from Reddit replies. Backpacking becomes a very personal activity after a few years and everyone has different ideas about the best set ups for gear and what not. So start with one of these books and really get an understanding of all the different types of gear. Also if you're in the states and have an REI close by you should see what kind of courses they offer. Most REI's have some kind of free intro to backpacking course. If you're cautious and prepared, going solo is just as safe as going in a group.
The top 3

The Ultimate Hikers Guide

The Backpackers Field Manual

The Complete Walker IV

The first one is probably the most easily digestible. The 3rd is my favorite but that's just because I enjoy the writing style. It's also arguably the most comprehensive.
I'd suggest you grab one or more of those books and start getting an understanding of all the gear. You could start with some easy overnight trip.

Edit: I just want to add, if you've never been backpacking at all you should look into gear rental and plan a quick trip. I've known plenty of people that think they want to do it until they do and they hate it. REI's have gear rental, some colleges have Outdoor Rec departments that rent gear. You could also look for a group near you and message them about wanting to learn. I used to go out with a Meetup group and we would always gladly put a bag together for someone wanting to try it out.

u/DOMOOMO · 6 pointsr/LiverpoolFC

This is an eternal one. There is no guaranteed "good way" as it is a still a matter of discussion how to approach a "matter of football" to be able to fully (or at least as good as possible) understand it.

For day to day performances, you can always follow services that even scouts use (like Opta, even FM and stuff) or free online sites like Squawka. However, I highly recommend to apporach them critically and with hindsight. It never tells a full story. Full story is watching the match, several times in a best way, not that almost anyone who is not paid for it, does.

Even though, you need to see what you are looking at. I think it is ideal, as in any research, to collect all sources. There is a great literature about a history and development of tactics (eg. or you can just follow some websities dedicated to it like

u/monsieur_banana · 6 pointsr/football

I haven't actually read it myself so not a recommendation, but Jonathan Wilson's Inverting the Pyramid is supposed to be an excellent book on tactics:

u/Zoophagous · 6 pointsr/MLS

The article is just plain wrong about the what happened during the Behring years.

Soccer votes did help build the Clink. Mine included. But there is no need to make the situation worse than it was.

Also the article appears heavily lifted from a recent book about the Sounders by local sports radio DJ Mike Gastineau ( There is an entire chapter on the stadium vote and how soccer voters influenced the outcome.

u/high-ho · 5 pointsr/LiverpoolFC

> I’m just saying I think it’s unnessessary to bring politics into football.

Then you don’t know football, friend. Today we remember the 96 people who died at Hillsborough. There are many reasons why we remember them. One reason is the politicized reaction to the events on that day, and how Liverpool fans and the city itself was pilloried by the establishment as part of a broader political narrative that had spanned decades before and after. (And some would argue that the public proponents of Brexit are the direct descendent of right-leaning politicians who generated and perpetuated the lies and injustices around Hillsborough. There’s a reason the (at the time) right-leaning newspaper we don’t discuss here is not discussed here.)

Speaking more broadly, however, I’d urge you to read How Soccer Explains the World by Franklin Foer (apologies for the US Amazon link if you’re in the UK!). That book does a great job charting the many ways in which football has been used by politics across the world, and fundamentally altered events in the world, far beyond the football pitch.

u/charzan · 5 pointsr/soccer

I don't know of any videos, but Inverting the Pyramid is a great book on the subject ...

u/Ronadon · 5 pointsr/climbing

I don't climb nearly as hard as you do but when I went through a similar thing I went to the gym a few times and made it a point not to TR anything. I only lead so as I warmed up and then climbed harder I was inevitably falling. After a few trips I felt really confident on my leads. I've never read this book but maybe it would help you if you haven't read it either

u/WorldClassCactus · 5 pointsr/climbing

I've observed these self-defeating behaviors from all kinds of people who climb a very wide variety of grades... notably an almost-5.12-climbing friend of mine. The frustration threshold at which a negative attitude emerges varies for different people, and can totally shut down anyone's progress.

Unfortunately, my experience has been that you can't help these people much. I don't know if there is a way to convince someone to keep climbing, improve and overcome... they have to want it for themselves. I think part of the motivation comes from confidence - a conviction that they could become really good if they kept trying, but a genuine form of that only comes from within.

If you push her to do specific exercises, she will likely have a negative reaction to it. So I'd say only be her coach if she specifically seeks out coaching. Maybe the best thing for you to do is have fun with this person and try to make climbing enjoyable to her. Sadly, no shortcuts. Essentially she will take steps to improve on her own when she wants to.

Check out arno ilgner's rock warrior's way, though it might not be that useful to an early beginner.

u/lostlogic · 5 pointsr/relationship_advice

Focus on yourself. If she doesn't want to be with you, it's probably (whether she can see it or not) something about you. Most likely it's your own insecurity that she can sense; women don't want to be with someone who isn't OK without them. You need to learn to stop thinking about whether you are good enough for her or not and learn to think about your own value and about what skills you have in your skillset that will help you be a better, stronger, happier lover in the future. If you do that, something amazing will happen; you will stop needing her to come back in order to be OK. Then she will either come back or she won't and you'll be able to step forward in your life regardless of what she does. Remember: the only thing you can control is yourself.

I highly recommend the book "The Rock Warriors Way" by Arno Ilgner ( ) --
it's somewhat oriented toward those who climb rocks, but I think that the philosophical principles within apply universally.

u/GourangaPlusPlus · 5 pointsr/reddevils

Inverting the Pyramid is probably a great place to start

u/Lepin73 · 5 pointsr/soccer

This the one? I was thinking of getting it for my grandad for Christmas. ^^^^.

u/bxranxdon · 5 pointsr/Chargers

This is a great story of how Seattle Sounders FC saved the Seahawks in Seattle

AND they just had a victory parade this week. I envy them.

u/LDGoals · 5 pointsr/MLS

If you're interested in a history of how MLS formed here in the US and you're like me and enjoy reading about soccer, I recommend Dure's Long-Range Goals.

u/SportsMasterGeneral · 5 pointsr/soccer

If I'm not mistaken, a lot of clubs back then were iffy about adding football and started out as cycling clubs or rugby clubs first. I'm trying to find where the information is located outside of the book I read

EDIT: [Here is the book I learned about this in] (

u/AnderperCooson · 4 pointsr/climbing

I don't know if you're going to find much on training mental aspects of climbing in a bouldering setting. For most people, fear of falling and trusting gear are the largest mental barriers. The gear side we can completely ignore, because there's essentially no gear you need to trust. The falling side is the same as falling with ropes--take falls to train falls. Start small, gradually get bigger. On the other hand, it seems like most people are far more comfortable taking falls bouldering than they are leading, so if mentality on the sharp end is your ultimate goal, you just need to tie in and take falls.

The Rock Warrior's Way and 9 Out of 10 Climbers Make the Same Mistakes are both great books for climbing mentality, but again, the focus will be on ropes, not bouldering.

u/Ptr4570 · 4 pointsr/CampingandHiking

No substitute for hiking! Can't complain against cardio and strength training though, hitting the gym will sure enforce mental discipline which is a big helper. When you guys do get outside remember that its not a race and sometimes objectives can't be reached. Learn to judge the difference between being uncomfortable and setting yourself up for injury.

If you're at the gym killing time on a stationary bike or treadmill check out navigation and backpacking at least for starters.

u/riely · 4 pointsr/reddevils

Having 5 up front was very common. It was also a lot more common back then to see scores like 6-3, 5-2 etc often. The modern "defender" is a very new concept when you look at football as a whole.

In fact, the earliest "formation" in football was notoriously known as "the pyramid", because it was a 2-3-5 formation in the shape of a pyramid. The 2-3-2-3 is probably the most common formation through football history.

Also, ever wondered why a CB is referred to as a "centre half"? The central midfielder was once known as the centre half, but many teams started shifting their centre half into the defensive line while attacking, in a ploy to concede less goals on the counter attack, which was a new concept at the time. Think of Michael Carrick or Steven Gerrard in the modern era, when they slide into a back 3.

Jonathan Wilson wrote a very interesting book called Inverting the Pyramid. Well worth picking up if you're interested in tactics or football history in general.

u/skaff3n · 4 pointsr/discgolf

My advice is to enjoy what you are doing. The results will follow.

I used to get so mad after my first missed shot because I knew I wasn't going to set some new personal record. What that did was make me dislike playing the rest of the round - all I could think about was how I fucked up and won't be able to beat some old score.

Focus on being "present" and Slow down.

I could ramble on and on about this, but someone has done a better job. Check out this book or audiobook ( I like the audio version, b/c I can play it on the way to the course ). If it's not feasible for you to buy it, DM me and I will send it to you for free via Audible.



u/atease · 4 pointsr/SaintsFC

Not a Saint, just visiting this sub but I'll throw in my two cents as well:

Play the game - Get involved as much as you can. Doesn't matter the level, just get playing. And, importantly, try to take up different positions when you play. Even though the game is the same, the role of a lone striker is very different to that of the right back, the playmaker is very different from the holding midfield, the left winger is different from the 'keeper and so on. It'll help build your understanding of the different roles at play on the pitch.

Computer games - Personally not sure about games like FIFA (if it works for you, go nuts) but I'd recommend some of the older manager games. Not because they were necessarily better than the ones around now but because they were a bit simpler. Not trying to be patronising but if I were trying to learn to play the guitar, I'd probably want to start with the rudimentary stuff before moving on to more complex issues, and that's kinda the case here. You can download Championship Manager 01/02 free and legally from their own website, something I recommend because of the clear and very intriguing insights into some of the game's inner workings like basic formations, player types and a rough idea of individual skill sets.

YouTube - Although I haven't gone too far into it myself, I'm absolutely certain there are a myriad very handy videos online explaining tactics on different levels. This is a nice introduction, and uMAXIT have some decent videos on basic tactical principles explained at a pleasant speed and with good visuals. When you've got the basics down (or maybe you already have), throw a quick butcher's at their videos on things like false 9's, gegenpressing and zonal/man marking.

Literature - Plenty, and I do mean plenty, of really good books out there. "Inverting the Pyramid" is interesting reading but will probably not provide you with too many insights into the modern game. I'd recommend reading that a little later.

For the history of the game, there is really only one bible - David Goldplatt's "The Ball is Round". It's a right monolith but it's well-written and very, very interesting reading. Once you get into the game, you might want to read up on a few of its greats' autobiographies - but all that in due course.

Online reading - At the risk of upsetting the reddit intelligentsia, I'd recommend you find some of the best personal blogs about your team and start reading them. Maybe even pop by the most popular message boards that aren't driven by points. The points made there are also more likely to be made by locals and so can give you an idea of what they think of it all (particularly with a club like Southampton which probably has a fairly modest global following compared to the so-called big clubs). By this I'm not saying you should stay away from here or not engage, not by any means. Just that it's a different world on the old message/discussion boards.

For news, I recommend this sub and NewsNow. Just be very aware that it's a link aggregator so there can be a lot of shit in among the good bits. You'll soon learn to avoid sites such as 101greatgoals, talkSPORT, TEAMtalk and the usual array of hacks but it's a good place to get an idea of what's moving around the club nonetheless.

Hope it helps.

u/sorenhauter · 3 pointsr/soccer

Ah. That's not the only incident of anti-semitism directed towards Tottenham supporters. What incidents of drama were you specifically referencing?

As far as mixing politics and football, I might suggest reading (and this goes for everyone) this book. It's a great book that shows that football is all about the political structure of the world.

u/tayto · 3 pointsr/sports

The Numbers Game by Alan Schwarz is probably up your alley.

I also liked How Soccer Explains the World and The Blind Side. Neither is about statistics, but it takes a different look at these games.

Although not about sports, Fooled by Randomness is another great read that discusses looking beyond the surface numbers.

u/Calber4 · 3 pointsr/AskReddit
u/jimminy · 3 pointsr/AskReddit

Reminds me of Dick Pound.

u/GP_3 · 3 pointsr/CFB

Maybe cause we didn't get into the big ten until 1950? Possibly because U of M consistently tried to vote for us not to join?
Here's a book on it: with the title "Arrogance and Scheming in the Big Ten: Michigan State's Quest for Membership and Michigan's Powerful Opposition"
Edit: Downvoted with a source, neat.

u/pineapple_wolf · 3 pointsr/climbergirls

Check out [The Rock Warrior’s Way](The Rock Warrior’s Way: Mental Training for Climbers It’s a great book that trains your mental game for climbing and it’s helped me a lot with that inner voice.

Also, for bouldering try and do some falls from certain sections of the wall that are in your control.

u/yea-bruh · 3 pointsr/climbing

If you haven't heard of it yet, I think you'd really enjoy the rock warrior's way. It's a wonderful book about how to focus and engage with fear in a methodical way. There's a follow-up of practical exercises in Espresso Lessons. Both these books put the whole thought process into the clearest words I've ever read or heard.

u/totesmadoge · 3 pointsr/climbergirls

I don't know of any training programs geared toward just women. If you're really into a detailed training program, the Rock Climber's Training Manual is about as detailed as it could be. I've also used training techniques from How to Climb 5.12 and Rock Warrior's Way, which is more mental training than physical.

Slopers also tend to be hard for me. The key is really to pull directionally, so use your core to get your body close to the wall, then pull on the sloper toward your center of gravity. Don't try to grab it or crimp it with your fingers--you want as much skin on the hold as you can get.

As far as the shoes go, if you have a good amount of rubber left on the toes, keep using them! New shoes can give you a real mental boost if you want to get a new pair--maybe don't go too aggressive--maybe something like 5.10 anasazis or la sportiva miura lace ups.

u/Calculated_Risk · 3 pointsr/climbing
u/highwarlok · 3 pointsr/CampingandHiking
u/JoeVolcanic · 3 pointsr/Outdoors

I was in a similar situation as you a few years ago. In an unpopular locale for backpacking (north TX) and had zero friends that were into it.

There's endless resources online but I wanted an all encompassing guide in my hands to start. The Backpackers Field Manual was really helpful. It was originally used as a textbook for a backpacking class at Princeton until it was published. It's organized really nicely with everything from equipment to weather and navigation.

I started with this book and then began sifting through websites like, Erik the Black's blog, Section Hiker and various other websites.

Hope this is helpful. Good luck.

u/GREEN_BUCKSAW · 3 pointsr/CampingandHiking

Don't waste your money on a course. First thing I would do get a book or two for about $15 each. This and this look like two good books. I'm Swedish so the books I use wouldn't be much use to you.

Next is to get a backpack and some gear. Once you have the gear pack it up in the backpack and go car camping for a couple of weekends. Only use what you have in the backpack.

Then you can progress to going on overnight trips. You should be able to find organized groups that go on backpacking trips. Start with simple overnights and progress from there. Or you can just go with friends.

u/Shteevie · 3 pointsr/football

Inverting the Pyramid: The History of Football Tactics
by Jonathan Wilson

u/BrittB1974 · 3 pointsr/discgolf

You can most certainly talk yourself out of a good throw. You need to find a way to relax and stay relaxed. If you're young it can be especially difficult, but you have to be mentally strong if you ever want to be truly competitive. Read this and have half a brownie before the round.

u/tblazrdude · 3 pointsr/MLS

Long Range Goals is also an excellent recap of why MLS is set up the way it is and the US Soccer landscape in the mid 1990s. Then the book summarizes the first several seasons. My favorite parts of the book surrounded the initial birth of the league and the MLS players union lawsuit that reinforced MLS' single-entity structure.

u/noknownboundaries · 3 pointsr/overlanding

>Colorado sometime in early August, but I can't find any published routes.


Here's a hardcopy book:

You can get GPX tracks for 4x4 roads here:

As well as here if you join the site:

And of course, there's the Bible of what's accessible, updated annually straight from the USFS:

And you can download free GeoPDFs of those MVUMs here:

Now then. Let's answer your main question. Weeklong route in the Four Corners area? There are literally tens of thousands of combinations of tracks to take. I've started in Carson NF in the dead of the sand off of 285 on a whim one time. Just pulled off the highway straight onto an NF-designated road and threw my plans to power through to the Sand Dunes out the window. Doing some quick scouting, I think it was NF 558 from the bend in the road I remember passing and approximate location. I digress.

You could start there and spend a whole day pretending you're in a Baja truck hitting those sandy whoops. I finally gave up on seeing how far back the road ran when sundown was on my back. Then you could snake all the way to the border adjacent to the highway and burn another two days easily. Or you could just hop on 285, run up to the Dunes, camp and hike there, then roll over Medano Pass and start heading towards Buena Vista. Or swing west and go hit up Telly/Ouray.

You need to remember the large swath of res land in NE AZ and NW NM, but other than that, the Four Corners states are absolute spiderwebs of 4x4 roads that will take you to hiking, biking, camping, crawling, fishing, hunting, and anything else you can imagine.

u/Deebstacks · 3 pointsr/4Runner

Haha, This is the one! There are different areas within it. I always use it!

Guide to Colorado Backroads & 4-Wheel-Drive Trails, 3rd Edition

u/sammysounder · 2 pointsr/MLS
u/riomx · 2 pointsr/soccer

How Soccer Explains the World: An Unlikely Theory of Globalization

"Foer, a New Republic editor, scores a game-winning goal with this analysis of the interchange between soccer and the new global economy. The subtitle is a bit misleading, though: he doesn't really use soccer to develop a theory; instead, he focuses on how examining soccer in different countries allows us to understand how international forces affect politics and life around the globe. The book is full of colorful reporting, strong characters and insightful analysis: In one of the most compelling chapters, Foer shows how a soccer thug in Serbia helped to organize troops who committed atrocities in the Balkan War—by the end of the war, the thug's men, with the acquiescence of Serbian leaders, had killed at least 2,000 Croats and Bosnians. Then he bought his own soccer club and, before he was gunned down in 2000, intimidated other teams into losing. Most of the stories aren't as gruesome, but they're equally fascinating. The crude hatred, racism and anti-Semitism on display in many soccer stadiums is simply amazing, and Foer offers context for them, including how current economic conditions are affecting these manifestations. In Scotland, the management of some teams have kept religious hatreds alive in order to sell tickets and team merchandise. But Foer, a diehard soccer enthusiast, is no anti-globalist. In Iran, for example, he depicts how soccer works as a modernizing force: thousands of women forced police to allow them into a men's-only stadium to celebrate the national team's triumph in an international match. One doesn't have to be a soccer fan to truly appreciate this absorbing book."

u/deadchap · 2 pointsr/soccer

This is a great read. [Amazon Link] ( I have given it to many people here in the US as it really gives them a great insight into the history and rivalries of football in the rest of the world.

u/_fernweh_ · 2 pointsr/soccer

Soccernomics by Simon Kuper and Stefan Szymanski has been an interesting read so far, if you're interested in the business side of the game. Another good one was How Soccer Explains the World: An Unlikely Theory of Globalization, which was comprised of case studies that looked at all sorts of different trends in the game, not just globalization.

Both of those books are well-written and -researched and offer good insights, and give historical contexts for, trends in the game.

u/crashkg · 2 pointsr/MCFC

This is a great book about politics and football.

u/bestnottosay · 2 pointsr/philadelphia

Recommended reading: How Soccer Explains the World, Franklin Foer

u/Monstermart · 2 pointsr/soccer

A book you night be able to use is "How Soccer Explains The World: An Unlikely theory on Globalization" by Franklin Foer. Its all about the development of clubs and the historical and political impact that they've had on their home countries, as well as how the sport has grown. Amazon link: If thats too much into the actual history of clubs try "Soccernomics" by Simon Kuper and Stefan Symanski. Its a more mathmatical look into the sport and how and why certain countries win while others dont. Amazon Link
As a fan of soccer im obliged to say that you should give the sport a chance.

u/Boxcar-Mike · 2 pointsr/survivor

A really fun book you can get is Andy Roddick Beat Me with a Frying Pan. The author gets pro athletes to compete is basically bar bets, like playing tennis against Roddick where Roddick has to use a frying pan. The book shows how insanely seriously the pro athletes take competition no matter how silly. It's a really fun read.

u/Parrallax91 · 2 pointsr/nba

No, that's the name of the book, and yes Andy Roddick did beat the writer of the book with a Frying Pan handicap. I've been meaning to read it for a while but I haven't been able to work it in yet.

u/[deleted] · 2 pointsr/books

Dick Pound's Inside the Olympics. That was hilarious!

u/zbrew · 2 pointsr/CFB

You should read up on the history of the relationship if you think the hard feelings between UM and MSU was a recently started "narrative." Here's a well-researched book on the subject.

u/dem503 · 2 pointsr/soccer

seriously? okay tell them this same arguement happened in the 50s in England. They got it wrong. England has sucked (relative to its number of players) for the past 60 years.

That book explains all I would recommend it to anyone.

u/SeeminglyTomC · 2 pointsr/fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu

Your second sentence is incorrect. Rugby soccer is a completely different sport to association football.

If anyone actually wants to learn about football/soccer history, then I strongly recommend Inverting the Pyramid by Jonathan Wilson. It's a key book for anyone with an interest in tactics.

u/tk423 · 2 pointsr/sports

You are troll, but in case you ever want to educate yourself I would start here:

u/zappydaman · 2 pointsr/soccer
u/kais33 · 2 pointsr/chelseafc

Thanks for doing this! If anyone wants a more in depth account of the clubs history I'd recommend Rick Glanvill's (Chelsea's official historian) book "Chelsea FC: The Official Biography - The Definitive Story of the First 100 Years"

u/slopers · 2 pointsr/climbing

The Rock Warrior's Way was pretty mind blowing. It's not a book about a climbing adventure, it's more of a tool to conquer the mental side of climbing.

u/jbnj451 · 2 pointsr/climbing

This. I love The Rock Warrior's Way. And I practice falls like its a religion. I'm not really a very good climber, but damn, I can tie a knot and I can take a fall.

u/fourdoorshack · 2 pointsr/climbing

They are unproven. Try this instead.

u/Nicker05 · 2 pointsr/climbing

You can try The Rock Warrior's Way: Mental Training for Climbers by Arno Ilgner. (Here's the Amazon page). The instructors at my gym recommended it and my wife and I found it to be a helpful read to face these situations.

u/TxMedic436 · 2 pointsr/Survival

I keep The Backpackers Field Manual by Rick Curtis in my EDC bag and on take it on all my adventures. It has some very helpful information and is easy to navigate.

u/jerseytransplant · 2 pointsr/CampingandHiking

An ounce of preparation is worth a pound of work later / cure / whatever the saying is.

Note that I have no experience in this geographical region, but I've done quite a bit of hiking / camping in other places.

Most important: Research the hell out of the area you're going before you go. Does it rain there? What are average / extreme temps? You can find this all at park websites, NOAA, other organizations that track average / historical weather. What is the elevation profile of the hike? Sure its 26 miles, but 26 miles in the Alps is way different than 26 miles in Kansas. How high will you be going in elevation? above 3 - 3500 meters you might start thinking about how your body will react to the higher elevations. Plus, a huge elevation gain in short amount of time is, well, taxing, and you're all apparently pretty new.

On to gear: Sleeping bags are really the only place you get warmth. Three season tents don't really contribute to how warm you feel, especially if it is ventilated well so that condensation doesn't collect in the tent. It is all about your bag and whatever you're wearing. If it gets colder than 30 degrees (see why you should check the averages and extremes?) you're gonna have a bad time, especially because there is (AFAIK) no exact standard or science to how those numbers are derived. It also depends on personal preference, and women versus men. Men are comfortable colder than women when sleeping, apparently. EDIT: also, those numbers don't always indicate comfort, but just "survivability." You'll be up all night shivering your ass off, but you'll live... not all warm and toasty maybe...

Hiking that long brings up some other questions. What do you do about water and food? I don't know the trail, but you should know before you go out there, how easy is it to resupply water. How will you purify / filter it? Food: it gets heavy, and so does water, so you don't want to take too much, you also don't want to take too little. Beyond that, knowing how often you come upon streams, lakes, etc. to resupply your water will help you reduce weight. Why carry 5 liters when there's a stream 1 hour away where you can get some new water. Yea, it takes 5 minutes to stop and filter, but it drops weight.

Other thoughts: Critters and bears. Are there any there? You've got to worry about that then, to make sure they don't get into your food.

Leave no trace (LNT): We can go into some long discussions here about how to reduce impact on the wilderness. How and where you clean your dishes, wash, where to cook, where to shit, how to shit, etc. Where to put your tent, more importantly, where NOT to put it to reduce risks of problems...

Ok so all that aside, can you do it? why not, you've got a month to get ready, but you need to actively start researching both the area of your trip, and general camping /backpacking tips / guides. Its not rocket science, and the chances are high that if you go into the woods with some friends on a well known trail, you'll come back out alive. However, it would be good to think of what could go wrong, and then what you would do to fix it, and then learn any/all skills needed just in case.

i.e. Your friend falls, breaks ankle. Well that sucks. And now its snowing. also sucks. You're like 5 miles from the trailhead, but that's pretty far if your friend can't walk, or can just hobble with 2 people's assistance. What do you do now? It's super cold, can you make a fire? Did you leave a note (ALWAYS LEAVE A NOTE) telling someone where you'd be, so that if you don't come back on time, they know something's wrong? Do you send one friend out in the snow to find help (at risk of losing the trail maybe) and you wait with friend, or do you stay and hope that your Mom calls the Rangers (how embarrassing :-)

Far fetched? Maybe, but its not outside the realm of possibility. Now you don't have to turn into Survivorman and be able to start a fire with nothing, and build a shelter in any environment, but you should think about what can go wrong, and what you could do in that situation. And then go in your backyard and practice it, don't just read it. In the end, its about minimizing risk and preparing.

But most importantly, have fun! I have lit countless campfires, and I still love it, there's some satisfaction in seeing a flame take off (note: not an arsonist) and the best food you'll ever eat is whatever comes out of your pot after a long day of hiking. Getting out of all this terrible crap, internet, job, cities, and into some beautiful landscapes, is the best thing on Earth.

So, my thoughts? If you're gonna do it, all 3 of you need to get serious now with checking out resources and preparing yourselves, make a plan, research the trail a bit, think of what might happen and be ready for it, and know how to camp without leaving a trace! Oh, and tell someone responsible what the plan is, just in case.

EDIT: Sorry for wall of text...

Also, maybe check out a book like:

This is all assuming you all have limited to no experience outside.. if this isn't the case, forgive me for stating things you probably already are aware of...

u/Socializedintrovert · 2 pointsr/camping

I don't have any in particular in mind. I was referring to the general subject of setting up camp, building a fire, and some basic do's and don'ts in the outdoors.

Something like this from Peter G. Drake would fill the bill nicely. Here's another one oriented more towards backpacking and camping from Rick Curtis

My point was survival manuals are good for a specific audience but most people who go camping aren't going to be interested in which insect larvae contains the most protein or how to set dead fall traps.
Edit : Added second book

u/richjohnny · 2 pointsr/footballtactics

If you want to start right at the bottom, Inverting the pyramid by Jonathan Wilson is a great book on the history of tactics from the 1900's all the way up to now. A lot of good stuff in there to make you think about why certain positions and tactics exist.

u/TheOakTrail · 2 pointsr/MLS

This is a little bit of a Sounders-centric recommendation, but I think every MLS fan would enjoy reading Authentic Masterpiece. It's the story of how the Sounders launched in MLS, and it's just a fantastic success story about soccer in America. I really recommend it.

u/CommonReview · 2 pointsr/leangains

So while this is sort of a dumb post, there is a point.

Individuals of west african descent, (notice I did not say black) do have a genetic predisposition to be advantaged at strength and power sports - They are usually naturally lean, have an increased neural drive, and put on muscle quite easily

The book Taboo: Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports And Why We're Afraid To Talk About It by Jon Entine is a really great read if anyones interested in finding out more.

u/markjaskolski · 2 pointsr/soccer

The Ball is Round: A Global History of Football (Soccer, in the American printed version) by David Goldblatt

Fantastically researched, and all-encompassing text on the history and moreover the development of football all over the world. I am about 200-300 pages in. Very dense read, but definitely a must-have for any one interested in the history of the sport.

u/gone_to_plaid · 2 pointsr/MLS

There is a book titled "The Global History of Soccer" that I read a few years ago. It is a great read and talks about some of these issues. It goes through the history of Football in each region and how they are connected. Unfortunately, I don't remember WHY soccer didn't catch on but I remember something about local cultures that were occupied by the british would play to emulate the british soldiers.

u/Stingerc · 2 pointsr/soccer

The Ball is Round: A global history of football (soccer if you get the US edition) by David Goldblatt

It's a very good book if you want a book detailing the spread of the history of the game. It cover it's roots, how it spread, how the major leagues came about, a general history of every continent, the world cup, etc. It's kind of a brick, but covers a lot of ground and is a good cornerstone if you are interested in the history of the game.

u/ItsSchlim · 2 pointsr/sports

When football came to America there were 2 popular versions at the time rugby football and asSOCiation football (which the British shortened to soccer often adding an er to many popular phrases at the time) the rugby style was more popular and eventually evolved into what we know as football. And association football just became soccer.
This is all paraphrased from The ball is round read it, it's a good book.

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u/michaelserotonin · 2 pointsr/bassnectar

the ball is round. recommended for fans of soccer & history:

u/dick122 · 2 pointsr/Gunners

Another not-specific-to-Arsenal but great read is The Ball is Round: A Global History of Soccer by David Goldblatt. Love it.

u/omerida · 2 pointsr/MLS

I believe the match went ahead because it had a national TV time slot on ABC. If they postponed it, they could lose the slot (Source: Long Range Goals)

u/chimpwithalimp · 2 pointsr/LiverpoolFC
u/frontrangeoverland · 2 pointsr/overlanding

+1 for paper maps.

We also use the Guide to Colorado Backroads and 4-Wheel-Drive Trails when riding the included trails.

u/GeekTX · 2 pointsr/Jeep

The book you are thinking of is Colorado Backroads and 4-Wheel Drive Trails ... TrailDamage went subscription based but there are 2 new sites being worked on ... 1 from the state that is horribly inaccurate currently and another from a couple of guys in the Denver area. If I can find a link I will add it later.

u/Thekid742_KTM · 2 pointsr/Dirtbikes

Guide to Moab, UT Backroads & 4-Wheel-Drive Trails 3rd Edition

u/fortinwithwill · 2 pointsr/EarthPorn

Buy the book if you dont have it already. You can get it on amazon and in every gas station, book store and gift shop in Moab. You will regret not having it. And remember its desert hot there in June.

u/pitch_up · 2 pointsr/motorcycles

Good question.
It was a combination of google, talking with buddies who have been there in the past, and this book:

I can give you a quick run down on trails to look for:

Hurrah Pass

Onion Creek

White Rim (100 mile loop)

Slick Rock (Technical)

La Sal Mountain trail

Back entrance into Canyonlands (not sure what else to call it, but its on trail maps)

u/Ma1vo · 1 pointr/CGPGrey

Grey if you want to read a non fiction book that you would never pick yourself I can reccomend this one:

How soccer explains the world. An unlikely theory of globalisation.

Don't get fooled by the title. This is a soccer book, but it's not really about soccer. It's a collection of weird and interesting stories connected to the game.

I think the Newsweek review on the back of the book give you the best idea of what I am trying to explain: "A riveting analysis of soccer struggle to come to term with the forces of free trade, multinational brands, and cultural imperialism"

Its available on amazon:

u/BaronVonMonkeyfart · 1 pointr/worldcup

Think of it as if your kid was playing on the field. Would you boo them off, or keep cheering them on, even if they were having a bad day. Cheering as reward vs cheering as incentive.

Besides that, if you "get slapped around like a little girl on the field" you actually get rewarded for your failure with higher draft picks. In Europe, failure is punished by dismissal from the top leagues and the corresponding loss of money. No Club has the absolute right to play anywhere, unlike the franchise system with its closed leagues and exclusive markets.

At least we agree that there are cultural differences: Centuries of conflict and strife in the old world are represented in the political, religious, and social identities attached to different soccer clubs.

A club like Barcelona represents a centuries-old ideal of Catalan freedom from the oppressive monarchists of Real Madrid. Celtic are Republican Catholics vs the Loyalist Protestant Rangers, and in Eastern Europe you get communist vs anti-communists, vs militarists vs secret police etc. Your club represents and validates your identity and belief system. This is one of the reasons why there is so much passion for the game.

If you want to learn more about it, I suggest you read "How soccer explains the world"

Which is what I should have done before we went into this argument.

u/GloryManUtd34 · 1 pointr/football

I just recently read How Soccer Explains the World. It's less about tactics and more about the global impact of the game, but it's very interesting and contains a lot of very helpful and important info.

u/j3zuz911 · 1 pointr/soccer

I'm familiar with the Soccernomics.

If your interested in soccer/football literature, this is fun book that isn't quite as intellectually intensive, but explores the cultural drive behind the game.

u/PhillyFreezer_ · 1 pointr/soccer

The book How soccer explains the world touches on that a lot, I know what you're saying. Religion, class, power, and money all play into football club support and for a lower class game it makes sense why the support would be more significant. But my point isn't just that it's a game. For some people it means a lot and that's ok. Crying at the end of a football match isn't over the top. Feeling gutten and having your day ruined by a bad result isn't obsessive. Pouring money and time into a club and having a very narrow view of the world is. If that's all you do or all you're involved in I think that's a problem. Rich or poor you can have other hobbies, other things in your life that matter. If all you do is talk football, watch football, analyze football, complain about football, and spend money on football, then it becomes a problem

u/brownbeatle · 1 pointr/todayilearned

the abilities of top female athletes are generally equivalent to top male athletes at age ~14. This book has a whole really entertaining chapter on it.

u/kupoforkuponuts · 1 pointr/AskReddit

This is his book. Yes, the cover is real.

u/AliceAndBobsComputer · 1 pointr/funny

Only on Amazon!

u/milesgmsu · 1 pointr/CFB


MSU's quest for admittance is pretty interesting. Add to it Michigan getting booted from the conference, and being the mover and shaker of the two most recent expansion waves, and I think we're doing fine.

u/CTeam19 · 1 pointr/CFB

> But when the University of Chicago dropped from the Big Ten in 1946, Michigan State was primed to join. Nebraska, Notre Dame, Iowa State, Marquette and Pitt also were considered. But MSU ultimately was tabbed in May 1949 and began competition in 1953.

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u/b00ks · 1 pointr/funny

To assume that soccer has no strategy is just showing that you have never watched the game. I might recommend to you a book called Inventing the Pyramid.

u/GRChelseaFan · 1 pointr/chelseafc

The official Chelsea biography is awesome.

Chelsea FC: The Official Biography

u/formerly_LTRLLTRL · 1 pointr/soccer

The Official Biography of Chelsea FC

Anyone who reads it will never again be able to accuse us of having no history, which is idiotic to begin with anyway. Brilliant read.

u/theghostinwinterfell · 1 pointr/chelseafc

I'm a (relatively) newer, American (assumed that because you said soccer) fan as well (right before the 2014/2015 season, did the same as you then saw right after I chose CFC that club was title favorites... honestly it spoiled it just a tad and a part of me was almost relieved the club did so poorly last year because it proved to myself I wasn't just glory hunting), so I figured I could give you that perspective on the last two! (1. and 2. I'm sure have been answered sufficiently and aren't changed by me being newer)

Kits: you're absolutely correct to go the club legend route. I've found to be simply superb, they ship internationally and since they're shirts from the past, they're all cheaper. That includes the Hazard 2014/2015 shirt I bought in the middle of last season (hell yeah I believed he was bouncing back with us- but this was a risk I do not recommend you take with your first kits, I was fortunate), which I paid less than half for than if I'd bought it from the official team store only a few months earlier. But that's the only current player I plan to buy for a while (although Dave and Kante are certainly testing my mettle, haha), and I've already got Drogba and Lampard shirts and plan to add more. I'm specifically recommending those two because they're fairly recent but absolutely undeniably two of the greatest to play at the club, and gentlemen who enjoy a continued relationship with the club. You get the best of both worlds- they're still fairly connected to the club but also firmly part of our past as well, and short of some horrible and shocking off-field situation, are assuredly club legends.

History: If you don't mind spending a few dollars, I found the Glanvill official club biography to be a fantastic read, and was most happy to get a perspective of the club pre-modern era that's hard to just get from the Internet. Outside of that, wikipedia is underrated- I've learned a lot about history, rivalries, major games/seasons, etc. just from following links; the club website's history portal is really cool too.

Hope you become as hooked as I am! Like you, I passively followed the sport for a while and would keep an eye on the table and of course watch international tournaments (this really helped with learning the major players quickly), but knew I wouldn't really latch on unless I picked a club. I'm really happy I ended up choosing Chelsea, don't think I'd be as into it if I'd picked a different club!

to be clear, this is a reference to Cesar Azpilicueta, not David Luiz! It is, IIRC, a reference to some bit of British pop culture from years back that got applied to Cesar because his last name is so intimidating to pronounce and spell. (Please correct me if I'm wrong, long-term fans!)

u/middleclasshomeless · 1 pointr/Fitness

To improve in climbing you need sport specific training and weight loss.

The loss of ten pounds even when I am out of shape can drastically improve my climbing.

I highly recommend:
Training for Climbing

How to Climb 5.12
The Rock Warriors Way

I have heard that Dave Macleod's book
and Self Coached Climber
are also really good.

u/rindin · 1 pointr/climbing
u/BaphodZeeblebrox · 1 pointr/climbharder

Obligatory - Read "The Rock Warrior's Way" comment. (Seriously though, this is definitely addressed, and should pretty much be required reading for all climbers.)

or via Amazon -

u/JawjeenerBrooke · 1 pointr/climbergirls

I once got told that the thing holding me back from climbing was that I didn't want it enough. Which pissed me off but I listened. I read 'The Rock Warrior's Way' ( which was amazing, it literally gave me no fear. The downside was that in my no fear state I attempted a 5b trad grit route and fell way above my gear, twice, the second time my gear popped and I was inches from decking. Now I think a small amount of fear of heights is quite useful and I stopped reading the book....

u/ctb3 · 1 pointr/climbing

Read The Rock Warrior's Way This book changed my climbing overnight.

u/azdak · 1 pointr/climbing

The Rock Warrior's Way describes a great technique for getting over a fear of lead falls that you can apply to this.

Basically, clip into an autobelay, Climb 5 feet up, and fall. Then climb 7 feet up and fall. Then climb 10 feet up and fall. etc etc.

It's all about building trust in the mechanical system. You don't trust it now because you're not used to it. Once you build up familiarity with the feeling of the system working perfectly as intended, you won't have that feat of the unknown when you're high up and feeling like you're gonna fall.

u/shitidiotturtle · 1 pointr/soccerdiscussions

> formations are largely the same

Year to year this is mostly true (varying between countries and even divisions based on skills of players) but over a longer period it has changed quite a lot. If you're interested in this sort of thing I really recommend Inverting the Pyramid which is an amazing overview of how the "standard" formation has changed

u/PerisoreusCanadensis · 1 pointr/LiverpoolFC

This is the correct answer. It's also why we have the terms full-back and why centre backs are sometimes referred to as centre-halves (they used to be the central half-backs). It's also where the inside-forward comes from (8 and 10 being the inside-right and inside-left).

There's a very informative book called Inverting The Pyramid which is a history of tactics and includes this information. The Pyramid was what the old 2-3-5 formation was called.

u/puddingbrood · 1 pointr/soccer

I haven't read it myself (planning too though), but I've heard a lot of praise about inverting the pyramid:The History of Football Tactics.

u/jaschac · 1 pointr/Seattle

It's maybe a bit more topic-specific than the average reader might like, but Sounders FC: Authentic masterpeice despite the somewhat silly name is a great read about the development of the team from its minor league days, to where it is today. Includes quite a bit about the history and behind-the-scenes of the Seattle sports-business landscape and the development of the new stadium.

u/ABQChristopher · 1 pointr/audiobooks

Zen and the Art of Disc Golf

Perfect for a road trip, trying courses along the way.

u/takes_joke_literally · 1 pointr/discgolf

This book will take 2 hours to read cover to cover.

The author recommends reading a chapter, playing a round or practicing, then reading another chapter, etc.

I like it.

u/cartoonfan3 · 1 pointr/aznidentity

Basketball wasn't dominated by Jews in any time in it's conception. Today the league is 90 percent black and it's no coincidence why that is the case. It's the same case with the NFL. To say it's culture means to say you have an agenda to keep the egalitarian view that everyone is equal which is not the case. I've seen real life observation and read books that refute that all groups are the same.

It would do well for Asian men to be represented in those sports if they live in America, because those are the most popular sports in the country. Being in an elite Division 1 college football team gets you pussy for example. It's gets you the sorority white pussy that most guys here really want. Ideally Asian men specifically should stop viewing non-Asian men as role models in sports, as it does imprint their subconscious that these groups are superior.

Asians are extremely restrained from cultural aspects which have resulted in physical restraints in specific sports. So the problem in theory can be solved in Asia by having a better diet spread across the distribution curve, a better sports culture, and a eugenic implementation of some sort to achieve individuals who could possibly be genetic freaks. The problem is money and the sjw's from it happening. Essentially you would have to breed and farm people to be in those positions in order for Asians to be competitive. Though in the end I'm just talking ideas because that is suppressed from economic and political matters.

u/mikec4986 · 1 pointr/AdviceAnimals

There's a book a book on this subject, and it basically states that West African/Northern European combination of genes create super athletes.

u/polkam0n · 1 pointr/Futurology

Oh sorry, you just ignored the other chain, here you go:

HAHA, this is the head of the organization!!!!!

From his wikipedia:

Genetics Entine is the founding director of the Genetic Literacy Project (GLP), operating as the Science Literacy Project, which is the umbrella organization for the GLP, Genetic Expert News Service (GENeS) and the Epigenetics Literacy Project. GLP focuses on the intersection of media, policy and genetics, both human and agricultural.

Entine has written three books on genetics and two on chemicals. Let Them Eat Precaution: How Politics is Undermining the Genetic Revolution examines the controversy over genetic modification in agriculture.[18]

In 2007, Entine published Abraham's Children: Race, Identity and the DNA of the Chosen People which examined the shared ancestry of Jews, Christians and Muslims, and addressed the question "Who is a Jew?" as seen through the prism of DNA.[19]

Entine's first book, Taboo: Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We’re Afraid to Talk About It was inspired by the documentary on black athletes written with Brokaw in 1989.[20] It was favorably reviewed by The New York Times[21] but criticized by others who claimed that the subject could encourage a racist view of human relations.[22]

Entine supports the production of GMO foods, and has criticized writer Caitlin Shetterly after she wrote an article in Elle Magazine saying that GMO corn had made her ill.[23][24][25]

PLEASE defend his views on eugenics, please....

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[–]dtiftw [score hidden] 12 minutes ago
I genuinely have no idea what you're trying to say. Or how it's relevant. Or how you think anything in there is about eugenics.

Is there some medication you should be taking that you aren't?

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"In virtually every sport in which they are given opportunity to compete, people of African descent dominate. East Africans own every distance running record. Professional sports in the Americas are dominated by men and women of West African descent. Why have blacks come to dominate sports? Are they somehow physically better? And why are we so uncomfortable when we discuss this? Drawing on the latest scientific research, journalist Jon Entine makes an irrefutable case for black athletic superiority. We learn how scientists have used numerous, bogus "scientific" methods to prove that blacks were either more or less superior physically, and how racist scientists have often equated physical prowess with intellectual deficiency. Entine recalls the long, hard road to integration, both on the field and in society. And he shows why it isn't just being black that matters—it makes a huge difference as to where in Africa your ancestors are from.Equal parts sports, science and examination of why this topic is so sensitive, Taboois a book that will spark national debate."

"Eugenics critics are still the vocal majority, spanning the political spectrum. But in recent years, a growing constituency of Drs. Jekyll within the biomedical community has sought to resurrect eugenics as a practice that, if done correctly, can be beneficent. The key to the new eugenics, they say, is individuality—a word with complex resonances ranging from “individualized medicine” to individualism, a cherished American value. Indeed, the new eugenics is sometimes called “individual” eugenics. A recent article by Jon Entine, of the Center for Genetic Literacy at George Mason University, exemplified this push for eugenicists to come back out of the night. Prenatal genetic diagnosis is eugenics, Entine says—“and that’s okay,” because it is controlled by individuals, not governments. This sparked a lively debate on both his blog and mine. The question then is whether individuality can save the soul of eugenics."

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u/pvdfan · 1 pointr/baseball

You mentioned all sports so I have four on soccer in the US. Long-Range Goals: The Success Story of Major League Soccer tells the story of the first 14-15 years of MLS. Star-Spangled Soccer: The Selling, Marketing and Management of Soccer in the USA is a business based book, but covers the utter insanity of soccer in the US from the the announcement of the US getting the World Cup until the book was published. Soccer in a Football World is a must read for the entire history of the sport from it's boom in the 1920's until mid-2000s. Finally, we have The Beckham Experiment which covers the story of David Beckham coming to the US and what followed. If I had to pick one of the bunch, go with Soccer in a Football World.

u/kaosfere · 1 pointr/soccer

Gotcha, makes sense. It doesn't pertain directly to the Premier League, although there's a lot of PL covered, but you might be interested in reading The Ball is Round if you haven't yet.

u/brandonw00 · 1 pointr/soccer

Another excellent book on the history of football is called The Ball is Round.

u/superplatypus57 · 1 pointr/SFGiants

Huh, interesting. Have you read many other nonfiction books about soccer? I've been thinking about picking up The Ball is Round. Looks like some interesting books.

I started Cod today and it's very good.

u/my_lucid_nightmare · 1 pointr/MLS

If you are a big picture "how we got here" reader, this is pretty good:

I also recommend Inverting the Pyramid which someone else did too.

u/cowboyjosh2010 · 1 pointr/NASCAR

These are all template and laser inspection warnings--as teams try to tweak the bodies of these cars to get downforce back, I think we'll see this pop up over and over throughout the season. Seems like a throwback to the Gen 4 years when Tony Stewart once had an entire car confiscated because the rear window was so skewed, or when Dale Earnhardt's team had to replace the entire rear section of the body because it failed inspection (they replaced it with a 100% identically shaped piece, which, oddly enough, passed).

If the history of pushing the boundaries in NASCAR interests you, this is mandatory reading.

u/thekeymaster10 · 1 pointr/LiverpoolFC

This if you want to relive last season.

u/TK44 · 1 pointr/ColoradoOffroad

I really like the Charles Wells Fun Treks books

Pretty good representation with pictures and trail descriptions, though keeping in mind that everything can change from year to year. He's got two for Colorado at this point, and one for Moab. I also have one for Northern California back when I lived in SF. You can even go to his website and download GPS data to put directly into your GPS.

u/Zoztrog · 1 pointr/Denver
There is an another volume that covers northern CO.
Not every trail but good information on the ones they have.

u/Barely_stupid · 1 pointr/Jeep

I have this book and it's great:

I did some red trails in my stock '99 Sahara...probably not again as I feared dropping into Devil's Punch Bowl and dying, but it handled them fine.

u/ChesterMarley · 1 pointr/4Runner

Go out and get this book, or whatever the most current edition is, and start ticking them off.

u/GeistFC · 1 pointr/MLS

My list would have to include

The Ball is Round this is an amazing history of the sport. It is a very big book but very good.

The Numbers Game This has been one of my favorite soccer reads and I am surprised at how little people talk about it.

This love is not for cowards Truly an amazing story.

Amung the Thugs a fun and alarming tale of holgainism. Something I am very glad has not developed around the sport in the USA.

also if your not already receiving them you should subscribe to
Howler Magazine and
Eight by Eight

I hope this list gets you started. I have more on my list but have not got around to them.

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u/jsfly · 0 pointsr/nba

>I'm pretty sure if you went to China and told them that they didn't have the genetic makeup to play basketball, they would tell you to fuck off. If you went to any country and told them that they, as a nation couldn't do something because they were genetically inferior, they would be just as offended.

First of all, as someone who's lived in China for more than a year, I can categorically assure you that most Chinese are well aware of their athletic shortcomings as a race. They are no where near as naive as you to think they are on equal footing with respect to breeding supreme athletes. And that's why someone like Lui Xiang can achieve the level of success that he has, not because he won a gold medal, but because he broke the very publicly acknowledged barrier that the Chinese couldn't compete in track and field. He himself has acknowledged the stereotype saying: " I want to prove to all the world that Asians can run very fast."

>My issue with your statement is that you are basically writing off an entire nation of people as genetically inferior.

Bullshit, what an utterly ridiculous statement. Never have I said they are genetically inferior overall, so don't put words in my mouth. I'm saying they are genetically inferior with respect to the game of basketball, in the same vein that caucasians are genetically inferior.

As I've already said in another post, there's a reason why African Americans while comprising of only 10% of the population of the United States make up 80+% of the NBA, and 65+% of the NFL. As a race, they are genetically superior in those types of sports, period. In fact, there have been scientific studies done on this very issue: "there is extensive and persuasive research that elite black athletes have a phenotypic advantage-a distinctive skeletal system and musculature, metabolic structures, and other characteristics forged over tens of thousands of years of evolution.".

Thus, on the flip side, it can also be stated that other races (white, asian, latino) are genetically inferior in those types of sports. Which is why in my initial analysis of Chinese basketball I said that they didn't have "the right genetic makeup for athletic excellence", because I didn't want to say it as "they're not black". Do note, I'm not saying they are generically inferior overall, so don't you dare twist my words again.

>Not because the sport of Basketball is relatively young in the country, or because a lot of its population is still living in extreme poverty.

If you read my initial post, you'll see I've already included a whole host of reasons why Chinese success might happen, but not anytime soon. Just because you chose to single out one of my arguments for criticism doesn't mean you get to ignore the rest.