Best bed frames according to redditors
We found 386 Reddit comments discussing the best bed frames. We ranked the 132 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
We found 386 Reddit comments discussing the best bed frames. We ranked the 132 resulting products by number of redditors who mentioned them. Here are the top 20.
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Everyone else covered all the other stuff well except a bed. the fuck is wrong with ya'll?
a futon? a futon mattress? air mattress??? fuck that shit
A good nights sleep is as important as eating, you don't need to spend all your money on it either.
Bed, blanket, sheets, and pillows: ~$350
metal bed frame: http://amzn.com/B006MIUM20 or http://www.walmart.com/ip/Spa-Sensations-Steel-Smart-Base-Bed-Frame-Black-Multiple-Sizes/15739163
mattress: http://amzn.com/B005A4OP8Y or http://www.walmart.com/ip/Slumber-1-8-Mattress-In-a-Box-Multiple-Sizes/14225185?
note: I've had this set for a year, great buy. fuck futons.
another note: if tying to decide between a twin, full, or queen size mattress. get a queen. even if you have a tiny room you'll have a big bed. never get a king (or cal king) size mattress unless you have a permanent home, those things are a hassle to move and/or get rid of.
'nother note2: buy the sheets the same size as the bed, but buy the blanket/comforter the next size up it'll make all the difference on an extra cold night or when someone else is in bed with you.
'nother note3: don't get a used bed. you only need to encounter bedbugs once for you to consider setting your entire apartment on fire. even if that doesn't deter you just imagine sleeping on a pile of someone else's shedded skin and dried sweat.
I get so tired of the whole "you don't need a bed or any other basic furniture" thing being repeated over and over. Yeah, they are inconvenient to move, but there are ways around that without sleeping on a fucking yoga mat.
A bedframe that folds up flat and comes in various sizes.
A mattress that folds up rather compactly, can be used as seating, and comes in various sizes. Can be padded with a mattress pad and blankets.
Still too much? Get a Japanese style futon.
A desk that can be folded down flat. As a single person, I often eat at my desk.
Or if you don't like to eat at your desk, a collapsible small personal table...just sit on your bed.
They also make collapsible chairs.
I understand the desire to not have much of anything because it's a pain to move, but there's a point where it gets ridiculous. There are ways around it. Yeah, having sex on the floor is better than no sex at all, but I won't be having any sex if I don't get a good night's sleep, and I certainly need at least a few inches of padding more than a yoga mat provides.
Ok I have moved about a dozen times in my life. Trust me I'm a pro at this. This will be long so I'm gonna divide into sections.
Furniture
Moving itself
Once you are in
Don't forget you are going to have to buy things you forgot about or that just come up those first few weeks. Somehow you will move in and realize you don't have a mop, or a kitchen trashcan, or about 50 other things that just happened to be your roommates, or where the hell is the dish detergent and oh fuck I forgot that I need toilet paper and I ran out two days ago.
I try to set aside about $100-$200 for these weird incidentals. If you are worried about running low buy stuff at the dollar store, you can get a better version next paycheck. Also if you are low on dishes this a great place to get some that are honestly perfectly fine. Big lots is also good for cheap dishes. Also not a bad idea to plan for the money to eat out a few days during the move when you normally wouldn't. For me its the one time I let myself have fast food.
Once you are moved in, be careful about your grocery bill if previously you were splitting groceries and not just buying your own. Buying for one is very different than buying for two, easier for things to go bad in your fridge.
Utilities/Bills
There will be deposits and unexpected service fees. When you set up your accounts ask specifically what will be on the first bill other than normal recurring charges. Do not think the bills will somehow be half of what you used before. Use A/C or heat sparingly until you see a couple bills. Replace all your lightbulbs with LEDs. Shop around to make sure you buy the cheaper ones they work just as well and they will save you a fortune on electric.
Buy a programmable thermostat if your unit doesn't already have one. They are easy to install yourself, will save you a lot of money buy avoiding running the heat/air while you aren't home, and are only about $40 on Amazon.
You need internet, you do not need cable. You do not need the fancy internet plan the company wants to sell you. Start with the lowest tier internet plan and buy Hulu or Netflix or maybe both. If you have streaming issues upgrade the internet later. When you set up cable request that you not be on a contract (cancelation fees when you move and don't want it are a bitch).
I have these two brand new, and they are excellent:
Going through the hard times makes the good times that much more sweet :) Good for you!! I recommend a bed frame like this
. I also have a memory foam and it does not need the boxspring.
They don't even cost that much.
37 dollars new
Not to mention that you can find a used one for even less.
Really this is pretty safely on the /r/Cheap side of things
Speaking as someone who lives in a small SF studio apt...
In addition to your excellent recommendation on varied sizes of containers, I have this 100 clear ziplock bags set as well as a variety of larger bags in varying sizes. So if I've got something with little accessories, I'll toss those accessories in tiny ziplock bags, then put them in a larger ziplock bag shared with the main item when I store it on a shelf or a container. For example, I do this with my medicine cabinet / toiletries. I organize stuff into ziplock bags by function ("sinus / cold", painkillers, GI, etc) and then toss them in the closet in a small box, to avoid clutter in my cramped bathroom and keep only things I use routinely close at hand.
I've got a couple little tupperware boxes like https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004F03L98 which I put labels on and stack in my closet. Plus I've got an old shoebox or two for knicknacks.
In my small pantry, I've got these little DecoBros Expandable Stackable Kitchen Cabinet and Counter Shelf Organizer to maximize vertical space.
I put my seasonal clothing into space saver "packing cube" compression bags.
Some of my cleaning and organizing is motivated by dust mite allergies - but ultimately I'm working on a long-term solution to that. So I'm getting immunotherapy to become resistant to allergens and also use a dehumidifier to kill the dust mites.
I also keep an inventory of the items that I really liked. If I bought it retail, I'll find it online. That way, I can sell or junk something with the peace of mind that I can buy it again when I need it.
I do the typical things to minimize possessions: I have a few merino wool items that I wear most often, have a single bankers box for files with almost nothing it it (scan), no desktop computer, store very few physical books, and so on.
For my sleeping area, I use this cheap Zinus frame and store a bunch of stuff under it. That gives me extra storage and it's also cheap and easy to replace I do a long move. For my bed itself, I use a Sleep Number bed - it's easy to pack it into the back of a sedan, and you can customize the firmness to get to the "medium-firm" which clinical trials have demonstrated to be the best.
My desk/dining table is public white 42" high dining table which allows me to stand if I want; these 29.5" Bar Stool fit and store nicely.
On the digital front, I have a very hefty dotfiles repo, use https://github.com/GothenburgBitFactory/taskwarrior for tasks, and have finally transitioned pretty much all my finances to the double-entry beancount leveraging https://github.com/beancount/fava (after trying the earlier ledger/hledger tools).
i have one of these sitting in my car right now to deliver to my girl's place.
Heavy duty to support our fat asses, according to the reviews it's quiet, elevated (you don't use a box with it) so toy chests can roll under it. Also, with the way it's constructed, plenty of places to discreetly attach things.
/u/LowkeyMischief, if you're still shopping... take a look.
https://smile.amazon.com/Brookstone-Bed-Fan-Wireless-Remote/dp/B00L3EY29C/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1526061599&sr=1-1&keywords=bed
Not sure if this is in your budget, but what I did is get this platform bed frame instead of a box spring. This opens up a lot of under the bed storage space. I store Rubbermaid plastic totes filled with canned and dehydrated food, 7 gallon aquatainers, and 5 gallon buckets of bulk grains there. I move around a lot so this foldable bed frame works great for me and let's me keep my preps out of sight and out of the way.
A few thoughts:
Edit: Autocorrect "corrected" a word. Fixed now!
I got this https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B006MISZOC?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
It's pretty amazing for the price and there's only a few bolts to even squeak. The bed it replaced had like 50 bolts and screws and drove me insane.
I bought this mattress frame. Keeps the bed off the floor, no box spring required, and has storage underneath. Also really easy to set up.
I have some first-hand experience sleeping on something similar.
I wanted a bed that looks/functions like OP's (held together by friction and gravity, easy to take apart and move), but lack the woodworking skills to make one like I wanted.
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Saw an ad on craigslist where the guy was selling a dresser, but had a frame that looked like the one I wanted in his room. Sent him an e-mail asking where he got it. Said he made it. Woo Hoo! Asked if he would be willing to make another, and what my cost would be. He quoted me $150 in lumber, $150 in labor, would have to use screws. I said, "yup!"
Went to get it and it looked okay. Wish he'd picked a bit better lumber (couple-a-flaws), but okay. It has 2x6s as the side support beams, 4x4s as the legs, five 2x4 supports running along the inside as weight supports, and a couple pieces of plywood on top for the mattress to rest on. (I live in a dry/arid area: our mattresses don't get moldy on a flat surface.) All this stuff is just screwed together. King-sized bed.
He said: "You're not going to be doing circus acts on it, are you?" Well, duh. That's what beds are for, right? But anyway, it's all good. It was the aesthetic I was looking for, and I thought it'd be sturdy enough.
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So I get it home and screw it together. Okay. I sleep on it. Okay. I ask some friends to try it out. Too wobbly, they say. Bad design. So I trotted over to home depot and got eight, 4" metal L brackets to screw each side support to each leg on each side. Much sturdier. Okay.
Slept on for about 3 years. Okay! Love the aesthetic. Had it specially made 18" clearance from floor. Love the height.
Getting off one morning, one of the side pieces snaps in half. There was a knot in that piece of wood that gave way.
Boooo!
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So, in seeing where it broke, I can see a fix. First, use great lumber. But also: the five 2x4s that are the weight support are just screwed into the 2x6s. What would've worked hella better is to do that if needed, but also make a rail below for them to rest on that's attached to the 2x6. Exponentially increases the strength of the 2x6 and better distributes the weight along it.
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It broke a few months ago. It's on my list of stuff to do: shore-up bed. But in the meanwhile, I got this metal frame off amazon... it was SUPER easy to unfold and slide under, and gives the poor, sagging frame the support to get by until I can fix it.
I hate the aesthetics of the new frame, but it was a great price and SO easy to set up, so light-weight to move. Glad I got it, as it will store well (if I ever get around to fixing my bedframe) and is super easy to move/drag out... great port-a-bed.
tldr: My experience with a similar-but-different bed design is that it's not really sturdy enough.
After beginning to measure my 4th gen for a sleeping platform I realized I recognized the measurements... Because they were the size of a twin bed! On a wim I ordered this from amazon for $40 in twin size. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006MIPW70/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 It fits perfectly with plenty of storage space underneath! I did cut the last 3 inches or so off one side until the horizontal support bar so all the legs would fit on the seat backs. Super easy with a tiny hacksaw and even easier with a dremel. There is 14in of storage underneath currently, however I will also be cutting down the legs to allow for more headroom. This is a great option for someone lacking woodworking skills or time! I put an exped megamat duo on mine, but it will obviously fit a twin foam or air mattress.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BWC1X3S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Highly recommend this. My husband and I are both big guys (over 600 lbs combined) and this thing doesnt budge.
This was a great buy. But look at the other Zinus models as well. Easy to assemble. Good quality. Link:https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-Platform-Mattress-Foundation-Boxspring/dp/B00WNF6GAI
I got a version of this platform bed. I really like it.
Pros:
Cheap its only about $80 for a queen size
No boxspring needed.
Dont need tools to put it together.
14 inches high so you can fit stuff under it (i keep my laundry basket under it) and can crawl under it when you inevitably drop your phone down the back.
2 pieces and it folds so you can easily carry it up stairs (18lbs each). Folded up it can fit in the back of a sedan if you are moving.
Pretty solid i dont hear any squeaks or anything from it.
Cons:
High chance you will pinch your fingers while putting it together.
It looks like something you would find in a prison/barracks. I highly suggest a $10 bed skirt.
You can stub your toe on the center leg pretty easy. Throw some pipe insulation on it under the bed skirt to save your toes.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00BWC1X3S/
Sturdy as all hell
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51s3IzGaIML.jpg
Edit: Since there seems to be demand Amazon page, now without weird referral code.
Thanks! I'm an engineer, so my choices were also driven by practicality.
For example, that couch also rearranges into the exact size for a [queen sized mattress]( Signature Sleep Contour 8-Inch Mattress) to lay on top except for one missing corner, which is exactly the height of the coffee table. I can also fit a queen sized bed where the bar stools go. When my sister and her friend visited, they each got their own queen bed. One of those beds is stored in the closet.
I despise big bulky bed frames. When I was deciding if I was okay with floor sleeping I started sleeping on the floor to see if it was comfortable. I did this for a while and made my decision about getting rid of the bed. I found that I'm comfortable floor sleeping if there's carpet but not if it's hard flooring. You also want to take into account if you are comfortable having sex on the floor, possibly having company stay over, or relaxing on the floor as well. In the end I did keep my bed, and I went with a sturdy, but very practical bed frame. This frame doesn't require a box, and it folds for easy moving. I paired it with a foam hybrid mattress that's easy to move when i move. The frame is definitely not necessary if you live in a house, but I got it for my cargo van. I love that your entire wardrobe can slide under the bed in bins. Zinus 14 Inch SmartBase Mattress Foundation / Platform Bed Frame / Box Spring Replacement / Quiet Noise-Free / Maximum Under-bed Storage https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006MIUM20/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Rjw5AbT0MG17D
I had a similar bed, but not from ikea. Tbh I really didn’t want to go through buying and rebuilding so instead I took out all the slates. Leaving just the headboard and frame around it. Then I bought one of these
Metal bed frame
Take measurements of course, but mine fit perfectly inside the frame. They have taller ones as well.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006MIUM20/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
even folds for when you move. i have one and love it.
We do separate bedrooms too just so both of us get max sleep. We spend the evening together, hanging out, cuddling, sexing, then we each go sleep in separate spaces bc his hours are different from mine and he sleeps very loudly and steals blankets anyway 😂
We've been eyeing this one!
Linenspa 8 Inch Memory Foam and Innerspring Hybrid Mattress - Medium-Firm Feel - Twin https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01IU6RJYA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_F.2MDbGHPBC4Z
Honestly, a full size bed would be perfectly adequate for two, if a bit cozy. It would also buy you a little extra room when every inch counts. I'd recommend a frame like this one that would allow storage underneath. It squeaks a bit and it's definitely barebones, but it's affordable and can fold up easy for moving. I own one in a queen size and have a very small room as well.
As for the rest of the room, get a tape measure and a notepad and measure the footprints of everything in the room so you can draw a plan view of the room and play around with configurations. If casual seating is a must, I would get rid of the couch and instead get a nicer futon frame in full size that can perform double-duty.
WIth a space this size, it's all about finding multi-functional pieces and things that can be broken down quickly and tucked out of the way.
Yay! I love when things like this happen. It seems small but it's not, that's your space! Separate, adult space for you.
This sounds a lot like the first house my husband and I rented together. Not really a bungalow but it was built in 1903 and of course had tiny closets so all our clothes were in a weird tiny bedroom down the hall and our bedroom was basically a mattress on the floor (also couldn't fit the box spring upstairs).
An idea, we got this for the bed: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006MIUM20/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_KNK2AbFGPZ45G
Cheaper than a real giant bed and it folds so once you do get one you can store it!
This type of bed frame was what i used when i was moving around. https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-SmartBase-Foundation-Replacement-Noise-Free/dp/B006MIUM20/ref=sr_1_3?crid=9TEGYYFFAKN&keywords=bed+frame+queen&qid=1565899595&s=gateway&sprefix=bed%2Caps%2C353&sr=8-3
Amazon recommends purchasing this bed frame. It's what I have, and it fits the mattress perfectly.
Amazon, as always! :D I got the 14" Zinus bed frame based off a friend's recommendation (link is to king size) but I'm already kind of wishing I'd gotten the 16" high version after I got a closer look at the limitations of the 14" (only 13" high bins, and the braces on the ends mean you only get to put the tall bins in the middle.)
It was surprisingly inexpensive, and I'm very much looking forward to the lack of box springs. And the cat is looking forward to having enough clearance to actually stand upright when he crawls under the bed. LOL.
Speaking of which, I should get off the Internet and back to my project, I'm just 6 bolts away from being rid of the old bed!
So in doing my research on these blankets I stumbled upon interesting products I had no idea existed that may be game changers for you:
BedJet
Brookstone Bed Fan
Bed fans?! For under your sheets or blankets?! I don’t “sleep hot” but can imagine this might just be the greatest idea ever for those who do...
The version from the video is only 130 bucks
https://www.amazon.com/Brookstone-Bed-Fan-Wireless-Remote/dp/B00L3EY29C/ref=sr_1_2?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1526060962&sr=1-2&keywords=bedjet
I bought a memory foam mattress/bed frame on Amazon for $400 and it is SOOO COMFY!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00474X5DO/
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002KQ5KQG/
Check out Mattress Lot. They have some good deals, they're local, and will deliver on a bike. They'll even give you a discount if you ride a bike or take public transit there. http://www.mattresslot.com/mattress_lot/Welcome.html
And I use this which does the job pretty well. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HCZ0YGG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I use this fold-able bed frame: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001IPVWG2/ref=twister_B001IPWV7Q?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
really great for a portability as I swapped living spaces recently, lift-able for one person, one fold to fold it up.
And then I combo it with an affordable foam mattress from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-Memory-Green-Mattress-Queen/dp/B00Q7EPPDA/ref=sr_1_4?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1493900674&sr=1-4&keywords=mattress&th=1
but you could find some roll-up mattress/futon like you said.
I read you already bought yours, but I want to put in my thoughts anyways in case anybody else is looking at these or you change your mind. I live with a buddy of mine for the time being and he bought one of those memory foam beds for his daughter (4). The bed is ok, obviously you can't expect the world from a <500 bed but its a good bed for what it is. I slept on it for about 3-5 months can't remember and I don't remember having any issues.
I decided I wanted my own bed, and so I went to Costco and looked around at their selection they had in the back aisles on the wall. There were about 15 beds they had in bags lying longways like you'd see clothes in a closet. Well, I found a gel top foam mattress for about $500 I think it was. It is by far the best bed I've ever slept on, and my friend has some kind of expensive foam mattress over $1000 and I like it better than his. The brand is Sleep Innovations, which I think is the same type of one as those beds.
Here is a link Gel Mattress
It's got the gel on top then the egg crate looking thing and THEN the regular bed. OMG, when I brought it home after buying some of those $80 Jennifer Adams sheet sets in queen size, and the AMAZING BLANKETS for $15 ( I bought) I was so giddy and squirreling around in my bed my friend thought there was something wrong with me. It was literally comfort overload.
The bed came in a box, all rolled up and you just flop it out of the box onto the ground and it sucks up air until it "inflates" I guess. It smells for a day or so then it's great. I love my bed. I bought a frame to go under it so I have extra storage and foam mattresses like to sweat which causes mildew under the bed (found that out the hard way with another foam mattress).
I also bought the foam pillows from costco as well, I think it was 2 pillows for $20 or $10 or something I can't remember. I LOVE COSTCO!!!!!!!!
A metal bed frame, something like this is just a couple collapsible pieces of metal that fold up really small and will elevate your bed a few inches off the ground. You will need a box spring, or some other platform for the mattress to rest on
These bed frames by Zinus are great. You just have to unfold it and put the corner braces in place. No tools. Took me less than 10 minutes to do it myself. I have the 18" one and keep large Rubbermade totes under it. There's more storage under my bed than in my closet.
14" height
18" height
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B006MISZOC?psc=1&amp;ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
This is the one I use. Sets up in like 3 minutes and I've had 0 issues with them.
I got something like this for my bed. It's just simple metal, no springs to wear out or anything.
https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-SmartBase-Foundation-Replacement-Noise-Free/dp/B006MIUM20/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1522872640&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=box+spring+replacement&amp;dpID=51%252BpY4TUgIL&amp;preST=_SY300_QL70_&amp;dpSrc=srch
Does anyone have any recommendations for bed frames or box springs? I definitely need to get something, but in terms of appearance I'm not sure which would be better. In terms of keeping things (relatively) cheap and simple I'm thinking of getting this. [Edit: The twin size one of course]
Same here, I recommend them to people all the time.
Their Smart Base alone is worth it and save a good amount of money of the decades that they'll last. Just not having to purchase or deal with a box spring.
So maybe the quality can vary or some people get duds, but we have this zinus frame and we have loved it. It’s been esp great since we are renters that move occasionally, often in older homes where the stairs can limit what goes up them. We’ve never had squeaking. Put a bed skirt on it and storage tubs for out of season clothes and extra bedding.
We were tight on funds then and still are. I imagine someday we will upgrade to something prettier, but maybe not until we have our permanent home. I’ve thought about finding a headboard I liked to add to it. For now it’s been pretty practical.
I bought this thing as a frame for my memory foam mattress, and it supports me(300lbs) and the mattress just fine, I totally recommend it as a frame for anyone who's looking. I can throw myself on it and it doesn't even budge.
Now I don't feel weird about getting a high frame for my bed.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B006MIUM20/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1453582976&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=SY200_QL40&amp;keywords=bed+frame&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=51VMwhfluNL&amp;ref=plSrch
Just wanna chime in here- Amazon sells wireframe boxspring/bedframe combos that significantly reduce the hiding spot for bedbugs.
Here's the link(sorry, on mobile): http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B006MIUM20/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1451736403&amp;sr=8-2&amp;pi=SY200_QL40&amp;keywords=boxspring&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=51VMwhfluNL&amp;ref=plSrch
I recommend these because when I used mattress covers for my boxspring, the abrasion between it and my bedframe caused rips and tears that rendered them useless. These puppies are a great (and cheap) alternative.
I have one. I was extremely skeptical because I'm really picky about mattresses, but my partner had heard good things, and we needed one, so we got one. We've had it for about 2 months.
A large part of the reason I'm picky is that my body is very curvy (wide hips, big ass, small waist), so I need a mattress that is squishy enough to accommodate that and yet somehow also supportive. I am normally a stomach sleeper and/or roll around all night trying to get comfortable, but I find that I mostly fall asleep and wake up on my back now. That's pretty amazing in itself.
Overall, I would recommend it. They have a good return/refund policy. They offer a free squishy addon pad if after a month or so you still feel like it's not soft enough. I have also read that showroom perception of mattresses generally doesn't have any correlation with longterm satisfaction. Basically, I can vouch for the fact that the Casper probably won't hurt you, and it will last longer than a spring mattress at an equivalent price.
For me, it's not the kind of mattress that I associate with "luxury". I don't sink into it like I'm laying on a cloud. But that's not good for your back anyway. It's more that it's just consistently supportive. I don't wake up in pain. And, best of all, I didn't have to go to a showroom and lay on a bunch of mattresses and get hassled/hustled by a salesperson gunning for a commission. We ordered it online while we were moving and it was delivered directly to the new place. I lay on it and it doesn't hurt me. So it checks all the boxes for me.
[Edit] Btw, we have it on one of these basic wire bed frames. Many reviewers also have a Casper and they say it works fine. So I don't think it matters that much what you put it on.
I have the same type and it's great link
I'm pretty big so we got the extra sturdy, can hold like +1000 lbs bed. It's great, no complaints. Hasn't broke and doesn't make a lot noise.
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So, they look a little like this, which is actually the bed frame we have (coz we wanted something tall enough to slide Rubbermaid totes under), and I can tell you that occasionally one of the metal slats will slide out of the holders, but it’s fixable with a little effort. My parents have this one in their guest room (actually in 2 guest rooms in 2 different states, heh), which is all one piece, but looks slightly different than the ones I’ve noticed lately on the show. I had a wooden slatted futon when I was in college, and yeah, I totally get where you’re coming from. My college bf got a little, ahem, cray once and basically put his knee through a couple of the slats, so I couldn’t imagine them having standard wooden box springs for long. A former friend of mine (who I’ve mentioned in this thread before) was (is) v large (400+lbs) and married someone who is just as large or larger than she is and they had to build a special bed frame for themselves out of 2x4’s, because previous ones had failed them at, uh...inopportune moments, shall we say. She also told me about how they deal with excess skin flaps during sex and sometimes that memory crosses my mind and I wanna die.
Linenspa 8 Inch Memory Foam and... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IU6RJYA?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
It’s cozy AF, more so than the mattress I have in my room. I got a twin size and it fits me and my dog.
linenspa
article about it
I’ve had no bug issues (since some of the first reviews that pop up warn of that), which is scary but I feel like there has to be other factors. The mattress has thousands and thousand of five Star reviews and fakespot says they’re legitimate reviews. Just check it outside before you cut the plastic off 🤷🏻♀️.
https://www.amazon.com/Full-Size-Fold-Bed-Compact/dp/B001IPVWG2
I got this one 2 years ago and it's still working wonderfully. They changed the shipping price on it though and $48 for shipping is shit. But it is a great little bed frame and folds up super nice in case you have to move.
Also certian... activities will not damage the floor with this one. ;p
https://www.amazon.com/KD-Frames-5772-FB-F-Fold-Platform/dp/B001IPVWG2/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=platform+bed+fold&amp;qid=1571637742&amp;sr=8-3
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Traditional beds have a mattress sitting on top of a box spring (a mattress sized wooden frame with springs in it) which in turn sits on top of a bedframe (typically made of wood or metal).
An alternative to this, is to get a bedframe that has wood or metal planks ("slats") going across the frame. They perform the role of the box-spring while contributing significantly less bulk. In North America, these are most popular at Ikea--it's a sort of European approach. Here's a low slatted frame on Amazon. Here's IKEA's slatted bed base category--in IKEA most of their frames can use a slatted base.
If you search the /r/minimalism for sleeping stuff you'll see that a lot of the more dedicated minimal people here use Japanese-style sleeping futons, relatively thin memory foam mattresses, and people here with actual bed-frames often forego a box spring or use a slatted base.
Good luck.
>Is there from type of frame I can ensemble in my room?
I had a bed that sat on something like this at one point in time. It was pretty nice, but then again, it also had a box spring. So, YMMV.
I also bought one of those memory foam mattress toppers recently and it's pretty much the best thing ever.
Need to know your budget and size (twin, full, queen, king).
Do you really just want a frame, like this or actual furniture?
If you want furniture, style is an important factor.
I did:) Also, I got [this puppy] (http://www.amazon.com/Adjustable-Center-Support-Rollers-Locking/dp/B002PCS0O4/ref=sr_1_30?s=furniture&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1370030379&amp;sr=1-30)
Hammock and Hammock Stand
Bed Frame and Mattress
Table and I stole a folding chair from my Uni to go along with the table.
Yeah, mobile homes are friggin expensive. Sounds good, take care of that van like it's your life blood. Keep the tires inflated so they don't wear out quickly. Check/change the transmission fluid, rear diff fluid, and coolant if you don't know when it was done last. Most people skimp on this.
I'd recommend getting a pistol or a taser pulse and some FOX brand pepper spray just so you don't have to worry about anything. I tell this to everyone, male or female. Things that everyone should have close by in my opinion. I'd avoid making the van look girly on the inside (no pink or purple curtains) for security reasons)
For the van, if you plan on living with him in there, you're going to need a big sturdy bed. I would buy a metal frame so that you have storage space underneath. Like this
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006MIPW70/?tag=dazar-20
I wouldn't worry about much of a build because I would imagine there won't be much space left over after a bed, just keep it simple. All you really need is a bed, a sink, a bucket lined with trash bags, a cooler. To pee in, an apple juice container and this, then go out and fertilize those trees :D
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Zinus Shawn 14 Inch SmartBase Mattress Foundation / Platform Bed Frame / Box Spring Replacement / Quiet Noise-Free / Maximum Under-bed Storage, Full
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006MISZOC/ref=twister_B07QFSTRKH?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I highly, highly recommend this mattress foundation. I move pretty frequently and have zero storage space and this is a great solution for both of those problems.
I used to have a really heavy and large wooden futon frame, which was pretty squeaky and unnecessarily difficult to set up but I ended up buying this model off Craigslist and I'm never going back. It's pretty easy to set up, very sturdy, and it makes no noise. And the best part is that the frame itself is pretty light and compact once you break it down so it makes moving it from place to place way easier.
I think you could rotate the bed. Put the head of the bed at the window and push it to one of the walls. Either 1. push it to the left wall and put the desk between the end of the bed and the dresser along the wall, or 2. push it to the right wall and put the desk at the foot of the bed, like this.
If you can, I would also get a taller bed frame so you can store more underneath it. I just got this one. The quality is great and there is SO MUCH storage underneath. There's also cheaper, but still well reviewed options, like this one.
Get a metal frame that sits up high. Put stuff you own under it, in a closet (clothes in a hanging dresser) or on an end table. Throw out everything else.
If you don't want a small room to feel cluttered you have to have less shit :D
Memory Foam Mattress
https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-Memory-Green-Mattress-Queen/dp/B00Q7EPSHI/ref=sr_1_2?s=furniture&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1493668083&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=zinus%2Bmattress&amp;th=1
Mattress Frame
https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-SmartBase-Foundation-Replacement-Noise-Free/dp/B006MIUM20/ref=pd_sim_196_2?_encoding=UTF8&amp;pd_rd_i=B006MIUM20&amp;pd_rd_r=ZAJ093BDRGE61QAXJCJV&amp;pd_rd_w=tevRU&amp;pd_rd_wg=WbmrX&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=ZAJ093BDRGE61QAXJCJV
These are really solid memory foam mattresses and affordable. Free shipping with Amazon Prime.
No, I don't have stock in Amazon: but I bought one of these 2 months ago (King w/ 18 inch frame) and am very happy with both.
I'd recommend Amazon for both the bed and the mattress. This is what I have.
https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-SmartBase-Foundation-Replacement-Noise-Free/dp/B006MIUM20/ref=lp_3733101_1_4/136-5868371-6039114?s=furniture&ie=UTF8&qid=1556125154&sr=1-4
https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-Memory-Green-Mattress-Queen/dp/B00Q7EPSHI/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=foam+mattress&qid=1556125187&s=home-garden&sr=1-3
I know I'm just adding on more money now. But you may or may not need a new bed frame. This is the one https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-SmartBase-Foundation-Replacement-Noise-Free/dp/B006MIUM20
It's high enough off the ground you can buy some bins from Walmart and stuff them full and toss them under the bed. And can fit all kinds of other stuff under the bed. It's nice.
Well, I've already picked one out. I don't know why I keep looking at it, though...
We just bought a queen sized memory foam mattress from Costco. Instead of a box spring/frame combo, we got this
platform Both were super easy to set up and have been incredibly comfortable.
Go to mattress firm and try out a Tulo Firm, it is pretty firm, comes in at 700 right now.
Target has a wide variety of sheets, you can get a king set for less than 55 typically (https://www.target.com/s/threshold+king+sheets)
If you are a Costco member or know someone I think they have some sheet sets that are less when on sale.
Mattress Protector: Luna: https://www.amazon.com/Luna-Hypoallergenic-Waterproof-Mattress-Protector/dp/B002AQPUW0/
Or Coop - home goods mattress protector: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UKHSNYI/
Both are good choices, $50, luna is a cotton jersey feel, coop is a more smooth and ever so slightly thicker feel.
Foundation: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006MIVR06 , basic zinus metal frame, 67
Another zinus more traditional slatted option: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07199DPJM 95
Comes out to around 875-900 before tax. Leaves enough for a comforter or blanket. I am sure there are cheaper options for everything I've posted, but those are all products I've tested and at least are familiar with them.
If you want to be adventurous and try a DIY mattress (not very difficult) I can recommend some parts that might work out within your budget too.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006MIVR06/
It is this one, but it is folded up in a corner of my house right now so no photo.
actually, i'd try amazon. we got a really amazing mattress, topper, and headboard/bed frame for about $1000 and they delivered right to our door.
if you are looking for something cheaper, this mattress is shockingly comfortable - we have it in our guest room and my VERY picky best friend loved it. you can get a great bed frame for cheap, too, there are a bunch on amazon.
i'm all for shopping local, but easy is also important.
Yea, the shipping time was a bummer, but hopefully that wait will be worth it. Here is the frame we got, its the same as the one on their site just cheaper and Ken, the owner of AZPM recommended it:
Zinus Smart Base
I did look at the Eco sleep but I don't think it's all natural Talalay and we liked the CombiZone coils which are an upgrade from the uniform coils of the Eco Sleep. We figured if we were going to spend on a mattress, we might as well drop two hundred more and get a better mattress. You can definitely feel the zoned coils.
You should look at exactly what is supporting the bed right now. There should be at least a couple center supports holding up the middle of the bed. If those are missing or broken you just need to figure out how to prop it back up again.
Being there is no boxspring you probably have lots of slats under the mattress and as long as they are not broken or warped beyond repair, beefing up your center support should be sufficient to make thing stable again. Worst case scenario, beef up the center supports and get a couple pieces of 3/4" plywood to put across for support as well. Just make sure it is evenly supported on the sides and center. Or you could go with something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-SmartBase-Mattress-Foundation-Replacement/dp/B00BWC1X3S/ref=sr_1_24?s=home-garden&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1475268999&amp;sr=1-24&amp;keywords=metal+platform+bed and just pull out your existing support system. I wouldn't mess with anything like you posted in your link.
Beyond that its tough to say without actually seeing what is going on under the bed. Your mattress may or may not be ruined, just really depends on how bad it was and how long it was like that. Get your foundation right and go from there.
Zinus Compack 9-Leg Support Bed Frame, for Box Spring & Mattress Set, Queen https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EYN1NEG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_vdWuvm8o12FoW
i bought this frame on amazon about a year ago for $50, & it's been great. i took the headboard from my old wood frame & attached it directly to the wall.
Thanks! I use this bed frame from Amazon ($45) which I like because it has square legs (instead of the legs with wheels on them), and it folds down really small, which was great when we were moving. The headboard comes with all of the hardware and just screws into existing panels on the frame. Some people on Amazon said they screwed it into the wall to avoid it moving, so that's an option to, if that's what you're into. Hope that helps!
What about this platform bed from Amazon?
A 4 feels like a truck rumbling by if you are 20-30 miles away. You could have experienced quite a few and not known it. Up close to the epicenter, it can be a wavy feeling that can transform to giant rocking sensations, and you should seek cover.
We've been too lucky in Los Angeles. Too damn lucky. All of the little ones have been wavy and over with very quickly.
I specifically bought a bed frame and left part of it empty underneath with a gallon of water, food bars, stuff for my dog, some shoes, a set of clothes and a other things should I get trapped under there. Here it is if you're interested: https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-SmartBase-Foundation-Replacement-Noise-Free/dp/B017YETH8K/
If you have the space to transport get a folding foam mattress like this one.
Best Choice Products 4in Thick Folding Portable Full Mattress Topper w/ High-Density Foam, Washable Cover https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01INZBCJG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_b6rlDb7ACS9NC
Almost as good as sleeping on a real mattress.
Then the pro move is to get a folding bed frame with tall legs. This frame will fit above most storage bins, definitely the blacks ones with yellow lids! Now you don’t have to sleep on the floor AND you have storage for your bins!
Zinus Casey 18 Inch Premium SmartBase Mattress Foundation / 4 Extra Inches high for Under-bed Storage / Platform Bed Frame / Box Spring Replacement / Strong / Sturdy / Quiet Noise-Free, Full https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017YETJFG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_M-rlDbTKAH4X0
I got the full size mattress and frame and it’s turned our 10x14 Kodiak into an actual bedroom.
Also live in a basement apartment. Get one of these to keep your bed off the ground in case of flooding (and also bugs):
https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-SmartBase-Foundation-Replacement-Noise-Free/dp/B017YETJFG/ref=lp_3733101_1_9?s=furniture&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1498783775&amp;sr=1-9
Amazon, of course. Look for 16 or even 18 inch high frames. I even found an open-box one for even cheaper.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017YETJFG
Bed
Bed frame
I’ve heard great things about this bed
And because it folds up, it’s incredibly portable. Perfect for a semi-nomadic lifestyle.
I'm in a similar situation and was recently looking at this foldable bed frame: https://www.amazon.com/Full-Size-Fold-Bed-Compact/dp/B001IPVWG2
The reviews on amazon seem to be pretty favorable.
Not sure how well it would support a foam mattress topper, but you might be able to slide a piece of wood underneath to help with the gaps.
I bought one of these frame and put it on top of these. And it's an extra thick mattress, to boot.
www.themattressunderground.com is a fabulous resource for mattress buying. Spoiler alert: The mattress industry mostly wants to screw you. Buy independent/factory direct, almost never name brands.
Here's a specific guide to buying based on budget. A sub $500 budget probably means a "throwaway" mattress, which doesn't mean you can't find something comfortable and supportive, only that it's unlikely to last more than a few years.
http://www.themattressunderground.com/mattresses/style-preferences-and-statistics/your-budget.html
Here's an excellent value mattress, but $600 for a queen.
http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Dreams-Latex-Mattress-Queen/dp/B0051AQXZK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1373594861&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=latex+mattress
Here's an inexpensive frame that would be good for a foam or latex mattress.
http://www.amazon.com/Handy-Living-Queen-Wood-Frame/dp/B002KQ5KQG/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1373595116&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=slat+bed+frame
Edit: I forgot: I'd stay the hell away from used mattresses. One particular reason: Bed bugs are Satan in bug form, and there is no way to be sure a used mattress doesn't have them.
Futons tend to be uncomfortable. I think your best bet is getting a basic bed frame with storage underneath. It has an optional attachment thing for a headboard. I really like my Casper mattress.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002KQ5KQG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&amp;th=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007B8RJC6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I try to do local whenever possible, been happy with Wood You and the The Futon store on N 16th and Main St.
That being said... recently got this for a guest with an "extended stay." We ordered this mattress and this bed frame. Total cost for a queen size bed/mattress: $381.00 (including shipping).
Quality was awesome and it's better than the bed we're using ourselves at more than 3x the price.
Added pics to the dropbox. More info on the platform here. Forgot to advertise the desk chair, but it's for sale as well. Send me a pm for my number if you're interested!
It depends on what type of break occurred. Was it straight down, through slats, or did the bed break at corners? Additional legs may help. I would have used 2x4s!
It may be unnecessary to buy a new bed, depending on the damage and your preferences. Is it possible to buy a standard bed frame and set it up inside the old bed? You may need to connect things with brackets or wood blocks to get it to fit together.
Alternatively, is it possible to fit a standard bed frame into either of the new beds? If one needs to be a platform bed, you could use 2 sheets of 1/2" or 3/4" ply cut to size (e.g., 2 30" x 80" pieces for a queen bed). I'd put a strip of rubber matting (like a door mat) between the two pieces to reduce squeaking; if that doesn't work, use a scrap piece of the ply to join them, using glue and screws on the underside.
Slats make the bed springier, and usually more comfortable. Reinforcing a few of the slats may help, or adding additional slats, either thicker slats or more, spaced closely.
Bed frames are pretty cheap too bro.
Do you think this would be good?
No opinion on the Ikea mattresses, and I'm not sure if this option will work for you, but I slept on this mattress for over two years and never had a bad nights sleep nor notice anything go bad. I prefer harder beds, but that one was still super comfortable (everyone loved it).
you WILL sink into this one, but still be very supported. I never felt like the mattress got overly warm, but I was in SF at the time so that probably limited how hot it could get. You don't need a foundation with that bed, so you could always get one of these.
After I moved I gave it to a friend and he thoroughly enjoys it.
https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-SmartBase-Foundation-Replacement-Noise-Free/dp/B006MISZOC/ref=asc_df_B006MISZOC/?tag=hyprod-20&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;hvadid=167157021761&amp;hvpos=1o1&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=9451980537366277784&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=m&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=1020086&amp;hvtargid=aud-643565131866%3Apla-274915971116&amp;psc=1&amp;th=1 this is the bed frame I own and it's amazing if you're looking to keep them a little further away. The full is even on sale for $55. I did break my toe on it by just walking but if you're less of an airhead than me you won't have an issue. It folds up and is so easy to move and assemble. Figured I'd throw it out there.
/r/interiordesign is not your personal shopping army. This is not an appropriate submission for this subreddit. I've removed it under rule 5.
Try /r/furniture, /r/furniture_design, /r/home, or maybe /r/designmyroom. Maybe /r/homeowners or /r/homeimprovement as well, for particular questions.
Best of luck.
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That said, I personally recommend one that looks like this. Bed might slide around a bit but you can use it with a memory foam mattress (which you should get, they're very affordable) without a boxspring.
Vet different brands.
I have the mattress directly on the frame with a sheet over the frame to protect the underside of the mattress - I'm paranoid that way. I like lower to the ground - I've noticed the high mattresses are no longer fashionable. The trend is to scandahoovian-style very low mattresses.
With the 8" mattress and frame, you'll be about 30" above the floor. There is storage space under the frame too, large enough for boxes - these frames are higher than the standard mattress frame you use with a boxspring.
Weird, the price of these has doubled since I got mine a year ago. I wonder if anybody else is less expensive? To be certain, it's this one
Signature Sleep Contour 8 Inch Independently Encased Coil Mattress with Low VOC CertiPUR-US Certified Foam, 8 Inch Full Coil Mattress - Available in Multiple Sizes https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004LQ1RKQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_cZ0mzbY769BCW
This one.
Zinus 14 Inch SmartBase Mattress Foundation / Platform Bed Frame / Box Spring Replacement / Quiet Noise-Free / Maximum Under-bed Storage, Full https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006MISZOC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_a00mzbXXZJAXR
With this frame.
Amazon.com has mattresses and box springs.
[I bought this mattress for my son (currently $190).] (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004LQ1RKQ/ref=twister_B004LQ1RLK)
If I could do it again, [I would purchase this platform (currently $82).] (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006MISZOC/ref=twister_B00TTX4XUW) Or make your own.
For less than $272, you'd have a pretty good setup for an apartment.
So, bed frames meant to attach a headboard, have 2 flat brackets to attach a headboard. Since you have baseboard heat, you want any flammable materials 8 inches away from the heating unit. This also allows proper airflow so it can actually heat the room.
You can get a frame and headboard separately. You just need a frame with the bracket to mount a headboard. Zinus Compack 9-Leg Support Bed Frame, for Box Spring & Mattress Set, Full https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EYN1NT6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_D5i8Ab1TDEM7F
Many beds don't use box springs and their frames are platforms for the mattress Zinus 14 Inch SmartBase Mattress Foundation / Platform Bed Frame / Box Spring Replacement / Quiet Noise-Free / Maximum Under-bed Storage, Full https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006MISZOC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_x7i8AbVQ9TGA5
You can also buy a bed with platform frame, headboard and footboard. https://m.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/functional/10376/16284/
I'd suggest you determine budget and style choice then look around.
Can I ask you a question about foundations and bed frames ? You seem very knowledgable about the subject. What are you supposed to put a 9" natural latex mattress on ? Do you need a metal bed frame + a foundation ? Is [this] (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006MISZOC/ref=ox_sc_act_image_3?ie=UTF8&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;th=1) type of frame good for a latex mattress ?
i use this bed frame and this futon mattress.
I got one of these used for dirt cheap but I would have zero issue paying full price, it's been excellent. Great storage underneath and no squeaking or movement.
Not everybody wants a wood frame. I use a metal platform under a standard mattress. It's lightweight and holds up to 700 pounds, and moves quickly and easily, it folds for shipping and arrived in one box weighing about 35 to 40 pounds. I got mine for under $100. I got rid of my box springs, and later will replace the mattress with memory foam mattress. What I like about this platform is there is 12" legs and this is more than enough storage area under the bed. I put it together with a screwdriver.
http://www.amazon.com/Sleep-Master-Platform-Mattress-Foundation/dp/B006MIUM20/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1408474711&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=metal+platform+bed
Assuming you want reasonable to put it on without box springs. Zinus Shawn 14 Inch SmartBase Mattress Foundation / Platform Bed Frame / Box Spring Replacement / Quiet Noise-Free / Maximum Under-bed Storage, Queen https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006MIUM20/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_191xDbJMPA2ER otherwise the floor.
amazon has tons of relatively cheap bases/supports. My wife and I have this and we've never had an issue: https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-SmartBase-Foundation-Replacement-Noise-Free/dp/B006MIUM20/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=bed+support&pd_rd_r=0cccd7eb-45d0-4579-8640-aabf364f3aa1&pd_rd_w=o6K7j&pd_rd_wg=mohyN&pf_rd_p=a6d813ec-3ed4-4e07-8c47-44da4b9e8167&pf_rd_r=FZF285Q1TJMM60693E5T&qid=1565807812&s=furniture&sr=1-2
You could probably get a dresser super cheap or even free on craigslist. Used beds don't seem like the greatest idea to me, but you could get something like this setup for not too much money. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N4N3QJ1
https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-SmartBase-Foundation-Replacement-Noise-Free/dp/B006MIUM20
This is the same one, for $89 and prime eligible.
How about a folding bed frame and a memory foam mattress.
Bed frame
Mattress
Zinus 14 Inch SmartBase Mattress Foundation/Platform Bed Frame/Box Spring Replacement/Quiet Noise-Free/Maximum Under-bed Storage, Queen https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006MIUM20/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_cLWExbZMZ0BP6
Would this be a good example? Sorry for pestering, I'm all so new to this and I don't want to get the wrong thing lol
I was worried about the heat. I'm a bigger guy and the thought of memory foam always made me think of trapped heat and sweat. No problems. I love this mattress. No box spring either so it opened up space under my bed for storage. I bought this frame for it. My entire bed was cheaper than some people pay for a box spring, let alone a frame and mattress. It's insane how expensive beds can be.
It just means baby is growing right!? right... :( I am only 19 weeks but with my last pregnancy I recall the same situation, but in the bath and SCREAMING for my husband because I was sure I'd be stuck forever! I hate the roll side to side for momentum and the great heave to get up!
This frame from amazon is wonderful and doesn't require a box spring! Best wishes!
http://smile.amazon.com/Sleep-Master-Platform-Mattress-Foundation/dp/B006MIUM20/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1416376128&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=mattress+frame
Yea there's no box spring or headboard anymore. I just got this metal frame
When you want to spend a few dollars to fix this comprehensively, I highly recommend this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006MIUM20/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_yqv9Bb2VBVG21
It's super solid, sets up and breaks down easily. Really great frame. Also lets you have more under bed storage and lets you get rid of your box spring
Check out something like this. The answers section says it’s 75” long.
Zinus 14 Inch SmartBase Mattress Foundation, Platform Bed Frame, Box Spring Replacement, Quiet Noise-Free, Maximum Under-bed Storage https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006MIUM20/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_-GA8BbJ609Q0K
I have the queen T&N and I like it just fine. It starts out very firm, but will soften up after a few months. I also have a latex topper that I got off Amazon that softens up the feel of the top.
I got this plain box for it for now because it was cheap. Eventually I'll probably upgrade to something made of wood so it looks a bit nicer.
http://www.amazon.com/Sleep-Master-Platform-Mattress-Foundation/dp/B006MIUM20/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1417143938&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=bed+frame
P.S. The mattress also runs a bit hot, so keep that in mind.
If you want one with storage just get this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006MIUM20/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_VUpJzbZHXE9VR
Thanks for the reply! I don’t even have a box spring. I only have a metal bed frame that looks like this
Are they just hiding in my mattress?
Lots of options on amazon too: https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-SmartBase-Foundation-Replacement-Noise-Free/dp/B006MIUM20/ref=sr_1_4?s=furniture&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1478100345&amp;sr=1-4&amp;keywords=platform+bed+frame
> Zinus SmartBase off Amazon
Their video made me laugh. I love what they show you can store under it. :) Hehe
My newest ideas to build my own bed frame by creating a vinyl coated aircraft cable mesh. I can't find anyone else online who has tried it, so it makes me more excited to do it. If it works I'll have to post pictures to Pinterest.
My goal is a lightweight trundle bed frame on casters.
My friends and I once hacked a queen box spring up, but never quite got around to splitting it properly. It worked for the few months we lived in the apartment and we picked up a new box spring when we moved out. My fiance and I recently ran into a similar issue and found these. Not a DIY solution, but a lot less of a headache and not exorbitantly expensive. In my experience, splitting a box spring is not worth it, but I am kind of bad at these things.
You absolutely do not need the Casper foundation specifically for the Casper mattress, the foundations are all pretty similar. These look marked up a lot, even compared to traditional retail.
I don't recommend the Zinus mattresses, but their foundations / frames / storage frames are pretty good & inexpensive, and I've heard good nothing but things about them:
https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-SmartBase-Foundation-Replacement-Noise-Free/dp/B006MIUM20/
https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-Platform-Mattress-Foundation-Headboard/dp/B01B8GQAOO/
https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-Standing-Mattress-Foundation-Platform/dp/B07D7J77VL/
Check Casper's latest terms to see what restrictions (if any) they have on the mattress return policy (visible damage and not using a foundation typically invalidates the warranty / return policy of a few bed in a box offerings). They might specify slats or something like that.
The foundation you choose will affect the feel of the mattress to some extent, but not a lot. The main thing you can do with the foundation to make the whole experience a bit firmer (if you end up wanting that) is to build or buy a bunkie board (which is basically just a sheet of plywood between the mattress and the foundation).
And if it's not obvious, huge gaps in the slats are going to cause some wear and tear on the mattress. For example, a 4"-6" gap is fine (12" is not).
I have this https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B006MIUM20/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1 with an 8 inch memory foam mattress.
For the frame issue, you can look into this Zinus Queen frame. I have the same one - it ends up being two individual "half-queen" platforms held together with screws. Each one would definitely hold on its own, so it might solve your problem. No idea about the sheets issue though. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006MIUM20/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I own this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006MIUM20/ - no tools to disassemble, one person can carry it down stairs, the grid has some spring, and WD40 eliminates creaking. idk if they make your size.
Cool: depends on the style. If your room is minimalist, people will pay attention to the frame because they're bored... but, usually, people won't notice the frame unless everything else also failed. The bottom of your mattress is not a natural focal point.
Metal bed frame.
Good condition and free. All you have to do is come pick it up. It's already dismantled and can fit in a small car.
Edit: claimed. Thanks!
My wife and I bought: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B006MIUM20 it folds very easily and was so much easier than bringing up a huge bed frame up 4 flights of stairs. And it's very quiet.
Good afternoon,
I’m trying to build a king sized futon bed, using a metal frame (like this: Sleep Master Platform Metal Bed Frame/Foundation (King) - Perfect for Spring, Latex, and Memory Foam Mattresses https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006MIVR06/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_v6nTCbPCCC9B4 ) I’m not sure how to attach the hinges to make it work right, along with how/where to attach the back bar to hold it the couch position.
Thanks!
I bought a $110 metal frame from Amazon for my new serta memory foam mattress. It hasn't arrived yet, but it has thousands of great reviews, so I figure it is a pretty good bet. No foundation is required with this type of frame. Link
I got this mattress and this frame along with this mattress protector. I've been happy so far and I am sleeping better than before. I have lower back issues and need good support. This is a firm mattress and it takes a couple minutes for you to sink in, especially the first month. After the first month or so it does not take as long for the foam to shape to you.
Ill just give you links.
This one is firmer than the other one, and while it is noticeable, it isn't any less comfortable. I can fall asleep on my friends bed just like mine.
this is the one I have, which is squishier, but some of that is also our different frame.
One is cheaper than the other, and has a 10 year warranty instead of 25. They are both nice, I would just make the call based on preference of soft and firm. They come in a box, and you have to leave them out for at least a day so the foam can uncompress. Neither of us had any issue with it smelling. It has a smell because its new, but disappears in a day or two.
stay away from the handy living wood slat frame, the wood doesn't last, especially if you are um....persistent in the bedroom. My friend bought this one, and we both agree it is better.
both have good clearance, so you can store stuff under the bed. If you don't have the 100ish extra, you can always save and just sit the mattress on the ground until you can afford it.
Yep, went with these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006MIVR06/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
Go for https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-SmartBase-Mattress-Foundation-Replacement/dp/B00BWC1UDG seems it's might be a good product for reasonable price
Another vote for Zinus, but in a different flavor. Zinus Elite Mattress Foundation. We have three of these, and they're solid. They're foldable, and they assemble in minutes with zero tools.
I'm not a fan of collapsible metal frames so I am probably not the best person to ask. I prefer solid wood frames, with wood slats.
But since you did ask, I would not get the one you referenced. I do not like those wire-thin supports at all. I imagine they will slowly cut indentations into the foam base of the mattress. But if you like that general design, here is a similar one except with steel bar supports rather than wire-thin supports:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BWC1UDG
Even so, the spaces between the metal bars are wide, more than 5-inch I think. I suggest either taking the cardboard box the frame comes in and covering over the surface of the bed frame with cardboard, or else get some hardboard or pegboard from Home Depot to cover the frame with (try to get something that does not have any formaldehyde in it)
If you'd be willing to spend a bit more on this one it's got a lot more support.
As an additional aside to amend this:
Our IKEA mattress support after eight years of vigorous use (plus I’m a pretty big guy) developed a crack in one of the wooden mattress supports. We really loved the frame and didn’t know what to do. We ended up getting a ZINUS Mattress support that fit perfectly inside our IKEA outer bed frame. It is extremely sturdy, unbelievably easy to assemble, holds up to 1100 pounds and wasn’t terribly expensive. Obviously, every frame/mattress size has its own corresponding ZINUS product we simply adore the king-size one that we got. The link below will indicate what we bought. It does not require a Bunkie board or plywood to support our mattress.
Zinus 14 Inch Elite SmartBase Mattress Foundation / for Big & Tall / Extra Strong Support / Platform Bed Frame / Box Spring Replacement / Sturdy / Quiet Noise Free / Non-Slip, Queen https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BWC1X3S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_G7kfAbKF7DXG4 https://i.imgur.com/8QKbZ44.jpg
I've considered buying a Malm bed frame but supporting it with a SmartBase metal frame (apparently you can remove the internal hardware of the Malm).
Has anyone done similar?
This doesn't look sturdy at all.
The thin slats and the hollow steel frame won't survive long, especially with heavier people. Also, while the slats are interchangeable, the frame can't be repaired if it bends.
The reviews are not very flattering either, mostly from people complaining that you can't have sex on it or it breaks.
Edit: The same brand has the Zinus 14 Inch Elite SmartBase Mattress Foundation, for Big & Tall, Extra Strong Support, Platform Bed Frame which looks to be pretty durable. Have to buy a mattress separately though.
Here's a similar 12" thick pillow top mattress and a steel frame, both with free prime shipping:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B012H0K93I
Extemely strong steel bedframe that eliminates a box spring and fits storage boxes underneath:
https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-SmartBase-Mattress-Foundation-Replacement/dp/B00BWC1X3S/
Well then don't fret, they have a kit for all sizes!
[Right here] (https://www.amazon.com/Queen-Size-Deluxe-Murphy-Bed-Vertical/dp/B00CYPV29W)
My parents who are in their 60s with little wood working experience just built one using this kit. It takes a bit of time but it turned out great! Kit comes with a detailed instructional video and all the hardware needed for the bed, all you need to supply is the wood and paint.
Similar to the other, but here's my shot
http://imgur.com/UUfaIKM
This is small enough to where you might want a pull-down bed like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Queen-Size-Deluxe-Murphy-Bed-Vertical/dp/B00CYPV29W
We have one! We live in a 700sq ft 2 bed apartment and we put the Murphy bed in 3 years ago when I started working from home. My office is also the guest room. We bought one of the kits that provides all the instructions and hardware and cut the wood ourselves.
A couple of notes:
It def did not destroy the wall.
It has changed the way we use the space, in such a positive way.
The precision of the cuts was REALLY important.
And having enough space to cut, and assemble the bed was a challenge.
The legs provided in the kit are garbage- we don’t use them- we made alternatives
10/10 we would build and use a Murphy bed again. It is so convenient. Since we did it our friends and family have done the same. This is the kit we used (I think): Murphy bed
I recently built a murphy bed and would recommend that you use a kit that has the end legs like this (https://www.amazon.com/Queen-Size-Deluxe-Murphy-Bed-Vertical/dp/B00CYPV29W). I did not and it is a lot more work and does not look as nice.
For the color i recently built a vanity with solid birch and also have cabinets that are birch. It tends to have knots and it's natural finished look is very similar to hickory so getting a clean look like this with solid birch rail and stiles might be tough. You could probably get some cherry plywood and some Cherry stick on edge banding and that would provide you with the look from the picture.
Sorry, standard bed frame and just attaching the head board to that for the look. Like this one. Zinus Michelle Compack 9-Leg Support Bed Frame, for Box Spring and Mattress Set, Queen https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EYN1NEG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_FphqDbS73T96T
50$ bed frame buy it
What slats did you go with? Did you buy something like this instead of slats? https://smile.amazon.com/Best-Price-Mattress-Innovated-Spring/dp/B00HCZ0YGG/ref=sr_1_6?s=furniture&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1465533731&amp;sr=1-6&amp;refinements=p_n_size_browse-bin%3A368699011
Look into the Tuft & Needle mattresses. They're CRAZY comfortable and super affordable. My husband did a ton of research and used Consumer Reports and this is one of the highest rated mattresses they tested. We got ours right around when I got my BFP and I love it to pieces. The cool thing is they vacuum seal it in plastic and ship it to your house for free (in the US at least), so you don't have to worry about delivery or anything. And you don't need to use a box spring with it, so you can get a tall bed frame and have all this storage underneath. I seriously can't recommend this mattress enough.
Go to home depot and buy an $8-$10 of plywood and put it on top of the boxspring. Or buy this.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00HCZ0YGG/ref=s9_top_hm_awbw_b3XrdYJ_g196_i6?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;pf_rd_s=mobile-hybrid-11&amp;pf_rd_r=1GXT3W4KW2X7HY6XECV9&amp;pf_rd_t=30901&amp;pf_rd_p=ce5b26d8-1521-5117-a67e-05beb529bc7e&amp;pf_rd_i=3248801011
This is the one we finally bought to get out mattress off the floor. Our box spring broke a while ago, so this was the perfect option, plus extra storage! (You know, once we saved up the money)
In terms of affordability it really is hard to go wrong with online. There are several great options to purchase inexpensive, but super high quality mattresses online.
I just bought a mattress online myself, ended up going with the Leesa. But here are all of the choices I looked at:
Leesa - $890 for queen, neutral firmness, uses Avena foam (similar, but better than latex), has memory foam middle layer, cool design, great price (really cool company too, they give back lots of the community)
Casper - $840 for queen, supposed to be a bit softer then the Leesa, uses latex and memory foam
Tuft & Needle - $600 for queen, one of the cheapest options I found, but also seems to be firmer. If you like firmer could be a good fit.
Yogabed - $899 for queen, similar to the Leesa in may ways, has some cool extras, a few unknowns in terms of the foams they use though
Saatva - $899 for queen, the one online innerspring mattress I found, great option if you really want innerspring. Has a euro-style pillow top, not sure how that would feel though.
Nature's Sleep - ranging prices $800-$1300 for a queen, a more traditional retailer, but had some interesting stuff, especially if you're looking 100% memory foam
For your frame there are a few different options. My wife and I had a platform bed already, so that's what we are using. It was around $600.
IKEA is always an option for cheap with a pretty good number of options. Also, there is this metal box spring / frame option available on Amazon. Hard to beat the price on that.
Zinus Compack Adjustable Steel Bed Frame, for Box Spring & Mattress Set, Fits Full to King https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IGGJQ6O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_OL2vzbGM8H1D7
If you don't have a box spring though, the platform frames are $75.
So. I've decided i'm going for that dresser. But for the bed frame I have this frame. Should i go to home depot and buy some MDF planks to run on top of it for my memory foam mattress or buy a new frame? Also the room was bigger than i thought the official size is 18ft X 20ft. As for the table. Would it be better to buy a new table? I like this one but if it's a eye sore I'd rather replace it.
was this the frame you bought?
Zinus Modern Studio 10 Inch Platform 2000 Metal Bed Frame/Mattress Foundation, no Boxspring needed, Wooden Slat Support, Queen https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WNF6GAI/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_EZK7xbFQ6A5W0
I actually did look at this bed, but was worried that several reviews talked about how noisy it was.
That's my thought, too. Memory foam mattresses (like Caspers) need flat surfaces (i.e. those slats).
https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-Platform-Mattress-Foundation-Boxspring/dp/B00WNF6GAI/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1521138701&amp;sr=8-8&amp;keywords=memory+foam+mattress+box+foundation
Do you have a box spring or is it on wood slats?
If you have a box spring with your mattress, this type of very basic frame works well They fold up really small for moving and are very easy to set up. It's the type I have on my bed and the type a friend had on her bed when I helped her move a couple weekends ago.
They also attach easily to most head boards. A metal headboard like this attaches with just a couple bolts and nuts I have a very similar one and it's very easy to move. You'll notice on the bottom of this upholstered headboard at the bottom of the posts there are two holes. Those holes will line up with the metal bed frame listed above and connected with bolts and nuts.
A twin bed is not embarrassing at all, since you are in college, and it can fit two people, but it's obviously not ideal. If you or the person you bring home are a bit larger, it's going to be a tight squeeze. I'm over 6 feet tall, so I don't fit in a twin bed with another person. When I started having girlfriends and hookups, the first thing I did was replace my twin bed with a full size. I would only advise keeping the twin bed if you have severely limited space or a lack of full/queen size beds available in your area.
You can probably get a cheap/free full or queen size bed on Craigslist. If you can only find the mattress/boxspring set, the actual bed frame you want is just a standard no-frills frame (no headboard or anything fancy), which will cost about $40 new at a department store or may be available free or super cheap on Craigslist. Here's one on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015IHMK5C/ You don't need to go buy a new bed at a mattress store or anything. A lot of these things, as well as sheets and whatnot, are also available at thrift stores.
So yeah, it's okay to have a twin bed, but you can and probably should get a bigger bed with little or no financial investment.
You mean something more expensive than this one for $40 off amazon? It is a sturdy metal bed frame.
the frame (box spring alternative) for the Zinus mattresses have a fucking incredible amount of storage space underneath
I got this mattress for my daughter. It is amazing. Soooo comfortable! Not to firm or too soft. Dont forget a platform or bedsprings!
Check this out: Linenspa 8 Inch Memory Foam and Innerspring Hybrid Mattress - Me... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IU6RJYA/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awdo_t1_v5u0DbR25REJ3
Depends on what kind of mattress you get and what you or your guest's preferences are. I bought this hybrid mattress and I like it. But, I know some people hate springs, some people hate foam, some people prefer firm, some people prefer soft.... So it's all relative.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IU6RJYA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
Wrong. They do this with metal spring mattresses as well. I got this one last weekend.
> We don't have a bed frame, there's no room in the bedroom for one. There's literally half a foot between the end of the bed and the wall.
Would something like this maybe work: https://smile.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Platform-Frame-Black-Full/dp/B073WRF565/ref=sxin_2_ac_d_pm?crid=368SMAF76NGKN&amp;keywords=platform+bed+frame&amp;pd_rd_i=B073WRF565&amp;pd_rd_r=c6cc9bc8-8cf9-439e-a4fc-8ddd299b7a67&amp;pd_rd_w=XI0TS&amp;pd_rd_wg=AP9a2&amp;pf_rd_p=be5d8dec-444e-4770-91df-1e16a8c46da8&amp;pf_rd_r=YDCA2TQT1SFDJVJME2GF&amp;qid=1563153296&amp;s=gateway&amp;sprefix=platform+bed+frame%2Caps%2C202
Also, if you can, vacuum bags for anything fabric/compressible.
I live in a 230sqft studio and I have my bed on a FOLDABLE metal platform (https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Foldable-Platform-Under-Bed-Storage/dp/B073WRF565) , I also have it on risers so that I can put my storage bins underneath (ie extra blankets, winter gear, camping gear, etc) As for a mattress, I have a Nectar mattress. I also used to sleep on the floor lol I didn’t have any issues with it but it took up a lot of space that I didn’t have at my studio.
I have a couch that is also a futon for guests and it also came in a box so if I need to move again, I I could easily break it down to fit it in my hatchback. (https://www.amazon.com/Novogratz-Brittany-Sofa-Futon-Linen/dp/B01LY1WBQN) it looks expensive, a little on the firm side but still comfortable with the right pillows. I got it on prime day for $200 😅
I don’t have a closet but I have an ikea wardrobe. It’s small and has allowed me to downsize on my clothing.
I also have this coffee table that looks pretty good and the legs can fold down and I can put it away if I need more space. (https://www.amazon.com/AZUMAYA-Folding-Coffee-Center-TAC-229/dp/B0077HY08M)
Get a bed frame. The whole box can transmit more noise than 4-9 little legs.
This looks fine.
Zinus Compack Adjustable Steel Bed Frame, for Box Spring & Mattress Set, Fits Twin to Queen https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015IHMK5C/
I just got a queen Zinus "Green Tea" memory foam bed. Currently $289 shipped on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Q7EPSHI/
It is pretty firm. I actually ordered a 3" gel topper because of the firmness (you sleep on top rather than sinking into it), but that proved to be too squishy (the topper leaves an imprint of your body when you roll). I have a 2" topper on another bed & imo that is the right level of squish vs. firmness: (the bed is firm to the point where my side wasn't sinking in & was kind of being compressed instead, like when you lay on thin carpet when watching TV or something)
https://www.amazon.com/Sleep-Master-Memory-Topper-Queen/dp/B00FJNQBJ2/
Also, I picked up their awesome 18" tall frame:
https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-SmartBase-Foundation-Replacement-Noise-Free/dp/B017YETH8K/
TONS of storage space underneath, easy to setup (2 pieces that screw together & fold in half, lightweight & only requires one person to assemble...literally takes more time to unbox it than put it together), no noise in use, plus with the 12" Zinus bed, it's at a good height to walk up to & fall into bed. You will need a grip sheet underneath, otherwise the bed will slide off pretty easily:
https://www.amazon.com/TRU-Lite-Bedding-Slip-Mattress/dp/B01AS3HADS
I also recommend getting a waterproof sheet (goes underneath the regular sheets), as any spills will sink directly into the foam mattress & never, ever come out:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A2G9VFM/
I got these Mellanni sheets - they are thin, but feel nice:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NLNDU00
Slightly better than the Amazon Basics sheets I have on another bed. I have a plastic bin underneath the bed for storing a spare set of sheets & waterproof sheet (both are washer/dryer-safe). Total comes up to under $600 shipped for a 12" memory foam bed, 2" gel topper, 18" metal bed frame, a non-skid pad for the frame, two sets of sheets, and two waterproof mattress sheets. I was going to get a Casper or Leesa, but those were like $800 just for the bed...I got all that for $200 less, still a pretty hefty investment, but a decent deal. Other than that, you just need some pillows & a duvet or blanket on the top.
The mattress comes vacuum-sealed in a box, so you just undo it from the packaging & let it air out for a day or two to fully decompress. The frame comes in a large but thin box (two frames folded in half with some assembly hardware). I didn't have to mooch a truck off a friend or go to a mattress store or anything...ordered it all off Amazon Prime, showed up in a couple days, put it all together by myself in minutes. Easy peasy. Would definitely order another one!
Here you go https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073WRF565/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1